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"Conspiracy has been defined in the United States as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions.

"Conspiracy has been defined in the United States as an agreement of two or more people to commit a crime, or to accomplish a legal end through illegal actions." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)#United_St... Thus it's conspiracy if you are party to an agreement which involves you receiving a bitcoin commission (legal end) as a result of the trafficking of drugs (illegal action.) If they're charging wire fraud, I think that may be part two of the complaint, "Conspiracy to Commit and Aid and Abet Computer Hacking." Probably people were using the site to sell hacking services or hacking tools which could be used to defraud people. https://pdf.yt/d/RpyX9_xmapTkhmkb https://pdf.yt/d/RpyX9_xmapTkhmkb

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago
What if you don't take a cut of the transaction? If there's some flat fee that people pay regardless of whether there is an illegal drug transaction, is that then a conspiracy?
- mpyne 12y ago
  Perhaps not, but if you know (or reasonably should know) that a crime is being committed and then don't report it, now you're an accomplice to the crime. It's hard to miss all the ads for drugs on SR2.0, so it would be very easy to prove that charge at the very least. And as we've seen in the past, Federal prosecutors tend to be very inventive, and the law tends to be rather expansive for these types of things, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there are other charges that would be possible.
  - Estragon 12y ago
    > if you know (or reasonably should know) that a crime is > being committed and then don't report it, now you're an > accomplice to the crime. It seems as though this depends on the state you're living in and the seriousness of the crime. I'd like to know what the relevant laws are (if any) in Ohio and New York.
    - greensoap 12y ago
      I don't know if any state that has mandatory reporting of all crimes based solely on knowledge. Outside of mandatory reporting of child abuse for certain individuals in specific roles (i.e. doctors, teachers, etc) so that those people report despite confidentiality obligations. But for the average joe walking down the street and witnessing a crime there is usually no obligation to report that and they don't magically become accomplice. Most state laws in the U.S. don't impose duties like that (or even duties to help others) on its citizens. Now, if your property is being used to commit a crime and you don't report it there might be different implications. And if you don't report it then you are going to have a difficult time proving you were involved. Guilt by association type scenario and the jury is going to likely believe you were involved. But this is not the same as becoming an accomplice because you didn't report the crime.

NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago

What if you don't take a cut of the transaction? If there's some flat fee that people pay regardless of whether there is an illegal drug transaction, is that then a conspiracy?

mpyne 12y ago
Perhaps not, but if you know (or reasonably should know) that a crime is being committed and then don't report it, now you're an accomplice to the crime. It's hard to miss all the ads for drugs on SR2.0, so it would be very easy to prove that charge at the very least. And as we've seen in the past, Federal prosecutors tend to be very inventive, and the law tends to be rather expansive for these types of things, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there are other charges that would be possible.
- Estragon 12y ago
  > if you know (or reasonably should know) that a crime is > being committed and then don't report it, now you're an > accomplice to the crime. It seems as though this depends on the state you're living in and the seriousness of the crime. I'd like to know what the relevant laws are (if any) in Ohio and New York.
  - greensoap 12y ago
    I don't know if any state that has mandatory reporting of all crimes based solely on knowledge. Outside of mandatory reporting of child abuse for certain individuals in specific roles (i.e. doctors, teachers, etc) so that those people report despite confidentiality obligations. But for the average joe walking down the street and witnessing a crime there is usually no obligation to report that and they don't magically become accomplice. Most state laws in the U.S. don't impose duties like that (or even duties to help others) on its citizens. Now, if your property is being used to commit a crime and you don't report it there might be different implications. And if you don't report it then you are going to have a difficult time proving you were involved. Guilt by association type scenario and the jury is going to likely believe you were involved. But this is not the same as becoming an accomplice because you didn't report the crime.