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> The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected

by ddollar 12y ago

> The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to keep out of your house. Do you have any computers in your house? A TV made in the last few years? A smartphone?

JadeNB 12y ago
> > The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to keep out of your house. > Do you have any computers in your house? A TV made in the last few years? A smartphone? Neither the first nor the last of those is necessarily always on or Internet connected. (For example, I have both of them, and, with brief exceptions, neither is Internet connected while in my house.)
- lsaferite 12y ago
  Following that logic, you CAN turn off the echo, it's got what looks like mute and power buttons right on top.
  - JadeNB 12y ago
    The question for the paranoid is whether it (the Echo) is useful enough while not connected to the Internet. (I think it's too much to expect any device to be particularly useful while off. :-) ) At least some commenters seem to think so—https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568572, for example. (Also, to be fair to chatmasta (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568265), I think that s/he was suggesting that the Internet connection / voice-recording function is on whenever the device is, not that the device itself can never be turned off.)
  - teddyh 12y ago
    “Edison, an off switch!” “She’ll get years for that. Off switches are illegal.” — Max Headroom, season 1, episode 6: “The Blanks”, 1987
  - sib 12y ago
    It has a mic mute button, but not a power switch.
    - lsaferite 12y ago
      So what's the second button then?

by ddollar 12y ago

JadeNB 12y ago

> > The selling point behind these devices is convenience, but at the cost of security. I don't think I need to explain to HN why an always-on, internet connected voice recording device is something to keep out of your house. > Do you have any computers in your house? A TV made in the last few years? A smartphone? Neither the first nor the last of those is necessarily always on or Internet connected. (For example, I have both of them, and, with brief exceptions, neither is Internet connected while in my house.)

lsaferite 12y ago
Following that logic, you CAN turn off the echo, it's got what looks like mute and power buttons right on top.
- JadeNB 12y ago
  The question for the paranoid is whether it (the Echo) is useful enough while not connected to the Internet. (I think it's too much to expect any device to be particularly useful while off. :-) ) At least some commenters seem to think so—https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568572 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568572, for example. (Also, to be fair to chatmasta (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8568265), I think that s/he was suggesting that the Internet connection / voice-recording function is on whenever the device is, not that the device itself can never be turned off.)
- teddyh 12y ago
  “Edison, an off switch!” “She’ll get years for that. Off switches are illegal.” — Max Headroom, season 1, episode 6: “The Blanks”, 1987
- sib 12y ago
  It has a mic mute button, but not a power switch.
  - lsaferite 12y ago
    So what's the second button then?