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Turkey is irrational. Maybe not that much but very irrational. Blocking site access to Turkey for any site governmental organization TIB - Telecommunication Com

by fsniper 17y ago

Turkey is irrational. Maybe not that much but very irrational. Blocking site access to Turkey for any site governmental organization TIB - Telecommunication Communication Presidency (Yeah I don't know what it means either) reviews and decides outlaw without even court decision. Also there is a blocked site list only shared with "certified by TIB" blocking software developers. Youtube was blocked beacuse of some obscure videos nobody knows over a year. Google sites are blocked. With Adnan Oktar's Lawyers' unbelievable effort Richard Dawkins' site is blocked. Blogger is blocked. Wordpress... And counting. Some of them managed to "obey law" and unblocked some of them could not. But the insanity continues. Well years ago we had a news groups moderator jailed for two years because of a post that he had not managed to "know" is outlaw.

radu_floricica 17y ago
Wonder why there's not more publicity about this. I only heard about the youtube thing, but I suspected it was a fluke. You're describing the worst case scenario for what Australia (and others) are trying to implement... there should be a lot more discussion about this.
- fsniper 17y ago
  I think this is a growing trend in the world. Politicians has learned about the "tubes" and trying to control it. of course every children must be protected from the dangers of devil's tool Internet. In Turkey there is law numbered 5651 giving TIB to control Internet access. They have the uncontrolled power of "deciding" wheter any content is outlaw or not. And ordering ISP's to block access. I think they even "self decide" to block sites where court orders are required. Our trust ISP TTNet obeys any order from TIB. And the funny thing is they do block whole domains. Not content. If a subdomain.example.com is decided to be outlaw then access to example.com is blocked. Funnier thing is they do this by hijacking domains at the service provider level. And the funniest thing is our Prime Minister once answered a question about Youtube's access restriction with "I can access Youtube, so you can".
  - radu_floricica 17y ago
    It's done at dns level? So technically a private dns linked through a tunnel to the outside could bypass this? This makes me think we need an international "constitution guidelines", with common sense stuff like don't let a non-judicial institution do this kind of censoring.
    - fsniper 17y ago
      Some of the blockings are done really this way. Nearly every Turkish Internet user learned about opendns now :). Also there is a huge demand for ktunnel like applications. This is dns hijacking by the government.

by fsniper 17y ago

radu_floricica 17y ago

Wonder why there's not more publicity about this. I only heard about the youtube thing, but I suspected it was a fluke. You're describing the worst case scenario for what Australia (and others) are trying to implement... there should be a lot more discussion about this.

fsniper 17y ago
I think this is a growing trend in the world. Politicians has learned about the "tubes" and trying to control it. of course every children must be protected from the dangers of devil's tool Internet. In Turkey there is law numbered 5651 giving TIB to control Internet access. They have the uncontrolled power of "deciding" wheter any content is outlaw or not. And ordering ISP's to block access. I think they even "self decide" to block sites where court orders are required. Our trust ISP TTNet obeys any order from TIB. And the funny thing is they do block whole domains. Not content. If a subdomain.example.com is decided to be outlaw then access to example.com is blocked. Funnier thing is they do this by hijacking domains at the service provider level. And the funniest thing is our Prime Minister once answered a question about Youtube's access restriction with "I can access Youtube, so you can".
- radu_floricica 17y ago
  It's done at dns level? So technically a private dns linked through a tunnel to the outside could bypass this? This makes me think we need an international "constitution guidelines", with common sense stuff like don't let a non-judicial institution do this kind of censoring.
  - fsniper 17y ago
    Some of the blockings are done really this way. Nearly every Turkish Internet user learned about opendns now :). Also there is a huge demand for ktunnel like applications. This is dns hijacking by the government.