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Peter Sunde: 'In prison, you become brain-dead'
- scotty79 12y agoCan prisoners have books? Can't they have computers? Why?
- johansch 12y agoThey can and do have books, TVs and offline computers. The article is just whining by someone who tried to escape his prison sentence for two years and after getting caught (and then bragging about destroying evidence) is shocked that the system treats him as not being very trustworthy.
- zethraeus 12y agoThe comment is just derision by someone who respects the authority of conventional power and is unsympathetic to someone having a fundamentally different but consistent stance. ;)
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- zethraeus 12y agoHuh. I don't think I've ever before offended someone else on the internet enough to make them find and wave the shared last name in my face.
- dang 12y agoYeah, that's out of line. Appropriately, users killed the comment by flagging it (and the poster subsequently deleted it). All: when you see a comment that is truly bad for Hacker News, you can flag it by clicking 'link' to go to that comment's page and then clicking 'flag'. We monitor these flags and take action based on them, and over the last few months have slowly introduced a system where enough user flags will kill comments. In such cases you should see "[flagkilled]" if you have showdead turned on in your profile.
- johansch 12y agoYou are attacking your perception of me, not my argument. The ";)" is weak cop-out.
- zethraeus 12y agoYou're right, it was intended to be read humorously. The argument I alluded to is that there is an internally consistent viewpoint in which the government action at hand is genuinely corrupt and supporting crony capitalism. In this worldview, one that I think there's a strong chance that Sunde adheres to, he's not being whiney, he's taking rational actions.
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- titusjohnson 12y agoWarning: Page has ads that play audio unprompted with no immediately apparent method of disabling it.
- jackmaney 12y agoOne more reason to surf the web with an ad blocker. :)
- comrade1 12y agoI'm surprised a Swedish prison doesn't provide a vegan diet. Prisons in California provide a number of different diets, although I'm not sure about vegan. It's a large expense for them. But that said, I think there are times to give up on your vegan diet having to do with the culture that you find yourself immersed in. This has nothing to do with prisons, but if you're traveling in a culture where veganism is unheard of you should be a good guest and not push your beliefs on them, making your hosts uncomfortable. Just eat the meat. In the West veganism is a luxury. A fetish for the rich and it is classist. Even outside of the West eggs and animal fat (not meat) are an important diet of many poor people.
- kiba 12y agoPeople in the third world don't eat that much meat because meat is expensive. Now in the west, eating only plants is an expensive luxury.
- gtk40 12y agoThe comment you're replying to did specify eggs as being more important in poor diets than other animal meat, which would square with my mother-in-law's experience growing up in the Philippines.
- modifier 12y agoMorals and ethics, staying true to one's values, that's worth making sacrifices for. I take it from your comment you don't understand that.
- lnanek2 12y agoTraditional Buddhism actually says you should eat meat if it is given to you as well, and they have been vegetarians centuries longer than the hipsters. They consider wasting food worse than eating meat. You shouldn't allow something to be killed for you, but it is a waste if it has already been killed.
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- towelguy 12y agoDid prison work? I mean, will he go out and think "piracy is bad!"? If not, then what was the point?
- cholmon 12y ago> If not, then what was the point? "He went to jail for piracy? I better stop pirating!"
- NoMoreNicksLeft 12y agoThe more plausible response is: "He went to jail for piracy? I better be more careful!"
- neverminder 12y agoThe point is to make an example, so that the next guy would think twice before becoming a nuisance to the powers that be.
- contingencies 12y agoWhich has totally failed, because the site is still up, youth perspectives against copyright law are at all time highs, the movement is expanding to physical fabrication, and in Europe, Australia and New Zealand we even have growing political outreach (Pirate Party, Wikileaks Party, etc.).
- frou_dh 12y agoDid you read TFA? It said he's not interested in piracy and TPB servers should have been set on fire years ago as far as he was concerned.
- towelguy 12y agoHe's not interested in TPB, but what about his thoughts on piracy? > “People ask if I would have done anything different if I could. The answer is no. This has been nothing more than five months of wasted time.” Prison is supposed to be a place of rehabilitation. If there's no rehabilitation, there's no point to it.
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- xefer 12y ago"After the verdict, Neij moved to Laos" Strange timing. He was just arrested: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pirate-bays-fredrik-neij-caught-thailand-border-just-year-before-arrest-warrant-expired-1473128 http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pirate-bays-fredrik-neij-caught-tha...
- contingencies 12y agoNot really. They had been living in the area previously and Neij was married.
- bjourne 12y agoI'm very surprised that they still maintain that all their income from advertising went to pay for their hosting infrastructure. TPB were hosted by PRQ which were owned by Fredrik Neij and Gottfrid Svartholm. Any bills PRQ sent them would be them paying themselves. That part of the story is really fishy to me. TPB has roughly the same type of advertising as one of the many porn tube sites. But a porn tube visitor easily costs the site tens of megabytes in streaming video while a torrent tracker only has to serve a few 10-30kb large torrent files. Yet the tube sites appear to be able to make some money, but TPB with less than 1% of the bandwidth costs/visitor couldn't?
- somehow 12y agoTPB was hosted by port80.
- bjourne 12y agoTPB was hosted by PRQ which in turn was hosted by port80. But the two companies had a quite incestuous relationship with each other. The owners of the two companies were friends or at least good acquaintances with each other.
- towelguy 12y agoI don't see how it is wrong to keep your business and yourself as separate entities (or your other business in this case). For example, isn't it good practice to keep track of office renting space even if you are a freelancer and work from home so you can take it in consideration when deciding how much to charge for your work?
- gamblor956 12y agoWhat he's saying is that it is extremely suspicious that the TPB guys are saying they made no money from running TPB, when they had easily less than 1% of the costs of businesses running similar types and volumes of ads (i.e., adult websites), and furthermore, when they were allegedly hosting TPB at another company that they also owned. It appears that the TPB guys are claiming that the hosting revenue earned by the second company should not be treated as the ill-gotten revenue earned by the TPB, even though they owned and controlled both companies. And indeed, there are laws in most nations and internationally addressing precisely those sorts of sketchy relationships.
- polack 12y agoSoon Fredrik Neij will join him. He was arrested in Thailand yesterday and will be transferred to Sweden in a couple of weeks.
- contingencies 12y agoThe SMH article I shared explained this was because the MPAA funded a lawyer to hang around in Thailand. Neij had been in and out of Thailand 30 times (he lives in Laos with his wife and young family) and the Thai's never cared .. until the MPAA funded a change in official perspective.
- aragot 12y agoAt no point in the article do they mention how long is the sentence Sunde has to serve. It's important because a few months in prison (less than a year according to the article) is ridiculous compared to most prison sentences. Of course, that doesn't mean that even a few weeks in prison isn't atrocious. But a lot of people have been through much more, sometimes when they weren't even guilty, and didn't have a voice to be heard.