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Well, I think the answer is yes, but then, probably so did most of her teammates. Certainly nobody's actively complaining, but that doesn't mean there isn't sim

Well, I think the answer is yes, but then, probably so did most of her teammates. Certainly nobody's actively complaining, but that doesn't mean there isn't similar resentment churning beneath the surface. Just because I'm open to hearing about your problems doesn't mean you feel open to talk about them. But on the other hand, going around to all the minorities and asking them if they feel like I treat them fairly seems (a) supremely uncomfortable on a personal level, (b) more divisive and patronizing than anything else I'm likely to do, and (c) like a chore I really shouldn't be entirely responsible for dealing with just to avoid being labelled an oppressor.

stcredzero 12y ago
Certainly nobody's actively complaining, but that doesn't mean there isn't similar resentment churning beneath the surface. Isn't this applicable to all sorts of group pathologies, not just ones that touch on race? But on the other hand, going around to all the minorities and asking them if they feel like I treat them fairly seems (a) supremely uncomfortable on a personal level, (b) more divisive and patronizing than anything else I'm likely to do, and (c) like a chore I really shouldn't be entirely responsible for dealing with just to avoid being labelled an oppressor. Why does it have to be particularly about race/ethnicity and directed towards minorities? The goal of artistic collaboration in groups is to get to a point there there isn't any "thing you can't say." The sort of "chore" you're talking about is an exercise that can be used to gain awareness of anything that's supposed to be hard to talk about. Also, if there's a workplace where people feel comfortable talking about anything that comes up except when it has to do with race, this strikes me as a symptom. And frankly speaking, I think this includes most workplaces out there. (So no wonder people take homogeneity as the easy way out!)
- mbubb 12y ago
  You write and think well about this topic. "Belling the cat" is the issue here as it would be extremely hard to implement a 'tolerance' program that would actually work. What exists today simply forces people to be more sophisticated and coded about resentments, jealousies, frustrations and prejudices. Or causes people to walk on eggshells which deepens the isolation that the author describes.

stcredzero 12y ago

Certainly nobody's actively complaining, but that doesn't mean there isn't similar resentment churning beneath the surface. Isn't this applicable to all sorts of group pathologies, not just ones that touch on race? But on the other hand, going around to all the minorities and asking them if they feel like I treat them fairly seems (a) supremely uncomfortable on a personal level, (b) more divisive and patronizing than anything else I'm likely to do, and (c) like a chore I really shouldn't be entirely responsible for dealing with just to avoid being labelled an oppressor. Why does it have to be particularly about race/ethnicity and directed towards minorities? The goal of artistic collaboration in groups is to get to a point there there isn't any "thing you can't say." The sort of "chore" you're talking about is an exercise that can be used to gain awareness of anything that's supposed to be hard to talk about. Also, if there's a workplace where people feel comfortable talking about anything that comes up except when it has to do with race, this strikes me as a symptom. And frankly speaking, I think this includes most workplaces out there. (So no wonder people take homogeneity as the easy way out!)

mbubb 12y ago
You write and think well about this topic. "Belling the cat" is the issue here as it would be extremely hard to implement a 'tolerance' program that would actually work. What exists today simply forces people to be more sophisticated and coded about resentments, jealousies, frustrations and prejudices. Or causes people to walk on eggshells which deepens the isolation that the author describes.