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that we (in the west) live in a white mans world has until now been a given. this however should not close to the door for consideration of possible negative ef
by cyphunk 12y ago
that we (in the west) live in a white mans world has until now been a given. this however should not close to the door for consideration of possible negative effects that the boys club patriarchy creates and potential benefits that might be found in breaking it apart.
- omonra 12y agoSure. But we clearly have different societies to compare - ones created/run by white and non-white men (no matriarchies unfortunately). And when I take a look around the world - I do have to give credit to those dead white men. Western Europe, AUS/NZ & US/Canada are really the nicest places I've seen - ie not just comparing beauty of nature but what people have done with the land and its resources.
- sarciszewski 12y agoWhat about the Native American societies, which tracked heritage matrilineally? If we looked hard enough we ought to find some matriarchies somewhere.
- barry-cotter 12y agoThere aren't any. Anthropologists have been all over this. There are degrees of egalitarianism and obviously there are unambiguous patriarchies. No one's ever found a matriarchy, or evidence of one existing.
- sarciszewski 12y agoOkay. Thanks for clearing that up.
- lifeisstillgood 12y agoOh do me a fucking favour. Non-white men have built cities and civilisations for 10,000 years, hewn staggering beauty from jungle, from plains, from desert and mountains, in Giza, Mexico, India, China and elsewhere. 250 years ago a bunch of Europeans stumbled on cheap coal and condensing boilers and crop rotation - those gifts gave to the whole world and it's future - but not because our ancestors were white, just because they were in the right place at the right time. I am really hoping you were trolling for the lolz.
- peterfirefly 12y agoWeren't they white in Giza?
- peterfirefly 12y agoWhile I'm collecting downvotes: wheren't many of them also white in India, even before the European expansion?
- thisrod 12y agoWhat society have you seen that wasn't created/run by dead white men? Because colonialism, slavery and all that. You're free to count the lives that your ubermen improved, but the rest of us are going to subtract the ones they fucked up.
- rimantas 12y agoChina?
- yonaguska 12y agoand most of the shitholes you've probably never seen are also legacies of dead white men.