> Ultimately, it’s a giant “he said, she said” that will likely forever remain cloudy—in September Wolfe and Tinder settled out of court, with neither Mateen no

> Ultimately, it’s a giant “he said, she said” that will likely forever remain cloudy—in September Wolfe and Tinder settled out of court, with neither Mateen nor anyone at Tinder or IAC admitting any guilt This is unbelievably sloppy journalism. It's not 'forever cloudy'. We have the actual text messages in question. Unless one wants to accuse Wolfe and her legal team of fabricating evidence (which is quite the accusation), those SMS logs are more incriminating than a smoking gun. Also, while they did settle, Tinder (IAC) did admit wrongdoing, pretty much immediately after the story broke[0][1]. If both Wolfe and IAC are admitting that Mateen harassed Wolfe, and we have the evidence to go along with that, that's about as conclusive as one could reasonably expect. EDIT: For clarity, this quotation was pulled from the Forbes article[2] now linked in the comments. Not sure if this was the original submission and the post was merged or if I just confused the two links. Either way, though, my comment still stands, as the Techcrunch piece says 'In the end, no party admitted guilt and the case was settled out of court.' [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7971289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7971289 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7971983 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7971983 [2] http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/11/04/exclusive-sean-rad-out-as-tinder-ceo-inside-the-crazy-saga/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenbertoni/2014/11/04/exclusi...