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Also major issues off the top of my head: Azure VM instances that run in a VPN have major network issues that are caused by the MS infrastructure. Depending o

by pippy 12y ago

Also major issues off the top of my head: Azure VM instances that run in a VPN have major network issues that are caused by the MS infrastructure. Depending on the latency you won't get the 'feel' for many websites, important nowadays with CSS transitions and WebGL. MSIE is circling the train in terms of marketshare. The VMs MS provided for testing were a godsend, but forcing devs to give up their work flow would likely result in them just dropping MSIE support.

duncans 12y ago
FYI: it's "circling the drain"
- 72deluxe 12y ago
  I think "circling the train" is more witty; it paints a great picture of a stereotypical American wild-west film, with American Indians circling a train whilst shooting rifles in a haphazard manner whilst shouting and yelping. Or perhaps bandits doing the same thing. In any case, a large collection of bespectacled Microsoft employees circling a train on horses whilst still wearing 1980s software developer outfits (shirts with pinstripes in them but white collars, high-waisted ironed trousers with a slim gold belt buckle, and big glasses, and a bushy moustache) in all the dirt would be witty, whilst dragging green-screen CRTs and big 5.25" floppy discs in their saddle bags with great difficulty. I know, I know, this is terribly stereotypical but I think it would make for a great film in the style of Mel Brooks; you can contact me if you want obscure and off-the-wall film settings like this...
molant 12y ago
If that is important to you we have also made available all versions of IE in Virtual Machines at https://www.modern.ie https://www.modern.ie
- erichurkman 12y ago
  And, if you frequently use IE virtual machines, you can use the ievms[1] script to manage the downloads, expiration times, etc. Saves a ton of bandwidth and disk space over the modern.ie downloads, too (it uses the modern.ie images as base installs). [1] https://github.com/xdissent/ievms https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
- srcmap 12y ago
  Does any or all older version of IE run in wine in linux? would that be better solution than download tons of 7gb VMs just to test IE? Edit: never mind, found answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/190425/how-to-install-internet-explorer-multiple-versions http://askubuntu.com/questions/190425/how-to-install-interne... what a nightmare!!! It is simpler to just detect IE user and ask them to switch to ff or chrome.
  - gtk40 12y ago
    It used to be quite simple with IEs4Linux[1], but it only supports IE 5, 5.5, 6 and sort of 7. Not as useful nowadays. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEs4Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEs4Linux

by pippy 12y ago

duncans 12y ago

FYI: it's "circling the drain"

72deluxe 12y ago
I think "circling the train" is more witty; it paints a great picture of a stereotypical American wild-west film, with American Indians circling a train whilst shooting rifles in a haphazard manner whilst shouting and yelping. Or perhaps bandits doing the same thing. In any case, a large collection of bespectacled Microsoft employees circling a train on horses whilst still wearing 1980s software developer outfits (shirts with pinstripes in them but white collars, high-waisted ironed trousers with a slim gold belt buckle, and big glasses, and a bushy moustache) in all the dirt would be witty, whilst dragging green-screen CRTs and big 5.25" floppy discs in their saddle bags with great difficulty. I know, I know, this is terribly stereotypical but I think it would make for a great film in the style of Mel Brooks; you can contact me if you want obscure and off-the-wall film settings like this...

molant 12y ago

If that is important to you we have also made available all versions of IE in Virtual Machines at https://www.modern.ie https://www.modern.ie

erichurkman 12y ago
And, if you frequently use IE virtual machines, you can use the ievms[1] script to manage the downloads, expiration times, etc. Saves a ton of bandwidth and disk space over the modern.ie downloads, too (it uses the modern.ie images as base installs). [1] https://github.com/xdissent/ievms https://github.com/xdissent/ievms
srcmap 12y ago
Does any or all older version of IE run in wine in linux? would that be better solution than download tons of 7gb VMs just to test IE? Edit: never mind, found answer here http://askubuntu.com/questions/190425/how-to-install-internet-explorer-multiple-versions http://askubuntu.com/questions/190425/how-to-install-interne... what a nightmare!!! It is simpler to just detect IE user and ask them to switch to ff or chrome.
- gtk40 12y ago
  It used to be quite simple with IEs4Linux[1], but it only supports IE 5, 5.5, 6 and sort of 7. Not as useful nowadays. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEs4Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEs4Linux