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There's a reason that no business will use Apple computers. Apple lock-in is horrendous and nobody wants to be tied to a single provider for all their hardware

There's a reason that no business will use Apple computers. Apple lock-in is horrendous and nobody wants to be tied to a single provider for all their hardware.

nullrouted 12y ago
Umm...no. Some businesses do use Apple products (typing on mine right now) but the biggest reason most don't is their lock in to the Microsoft ecosystems. Most of them use Active Directory and have corporate standards that make them use Microsoft because their IT teams require it.
CalRobert 12y ago
Anecdotal, but fwiw my last three jobs have been in 100% Apple offices. That's probably just working in tech, though.
nkoren 12y ago
> There's a reason that no business will use Apple computers. You may wish to update your assumptions. That was a relatively viable statement to make in 2012. In 2014 -- with businesses like Google going effectively Apple-only -- it's not.
- shiftpgdn 12y ago
  Do you have a source for this?
  - digi_owl 12y ago
    I suspect the whole thing is bordering on a tautology. Most of what Google do involve the web. And most web design (note the design part) courses puts a focus on Apple products. This in part because they grew out of print media courses etc.
  - nkoren 12y ago
    https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa13/managing-macs-google-scale https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa13/managing-macs-googl...
- WorldWideWayne 12y ago
  OS X is less than 10% global market share. I think my assumption is still safe in 2014. https://www.google.com/search?q=os+x+global+market+share https://www.google.com/search?q=os+x+global+market+share
  - nkoren 12y ago
    You said "no business", as in n = 0. I provided a significant counter-example. n >= 1; therefore your assumption is false.
pnathan 12y ago
Actually, my fine employer uses Macs for all engineering functions on desktops.
- digi_owl 12y ago
  I am guessing this is because it is a off the shelf *nix.
  - pnathan 12y ago
    Yes and no - they are a standard system that is popular, the laptops are relatively sturdy and the IT expertise on adminning macs is pretty widespread. Note, look at how many startups and techies use macs as primary dev machines - most people in the tech "scene" seem to. Popularity and bandwagons have some level of merit.
revscat 12y ago
This is far from try any longer. My current employer is about 75/25/5 OS X/Windows/Linux for end user machines. The Windows boxes are used by the business types, while the devs and designers use OS X. The prod systems are Linux, and the devops are also Linux. This is for a Fortune-500 company.
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parasubvert 12y ago
I walked around many a modern development shop, and it's often about 70% Apple since around 2008... Especially now with mobile development. Traditional businesses have a Windows legacy to deal with, but that hasn't stopped the vast majority from adopting iOS in droves.

There's a reason that no business will use Apple computers. Apple lock-in is horrendous and nobody wants to be tied to a single provider for all their hardware.

nullrouted 12y ago

Umm...no. Some businesses do use Apple products (typing on mine right now) but the biggest reason most don't is their lock in to the Microsoft ecosystems. Most of them use Active Directory and have corporate standards that make them use Microsoft because their IT teams require it.

CalRobert 12y ago

Anecdotal, but fwiw my last three jobs have been in 100% Apple offices. That's probably just working in tech, though.

nkoren 12y ago

> There's a reason that no business will use Apple computers. You may wish to update your assumptions. That was a relatively viable statement to make in 2012. In 2014 -- with businesses like Google going effectively Apple-only -- it's not.

shiftpgdn 12y ago
Do you have a source for this?
- digi_owl 12y ago
  I suspect the whole thing is bordering on a tautology. Most of what Google do involve the web. And most web design (note the design part) courses puts a focus on Apple products. This in part because they grew out of print media courses etc.
- nkoren 12y ago
  https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa13/managing-macs-google-scale https://www.usenix.org/conference/lisa13/managing-macs-googl...
WorldWideWayne 12y ago
OS X is less than 10% global market share. I think my assumption is still safe in 2014. https://www.google.com/search?q=os+x+global+market+share https://www.google.com/search?q=os+x+global+market+share
- nkoren 12y ago
  You said "no business", as in n = 0. I provided a significant counter-example. n >= 1; therefore your assumption is false.

pnathan 12y ago

Actually, my fine employer uses Macs for all engineering functions on desktops.

digi_owl 12y ago
I am guessing this is because it is a off the shelf *nix.
- pnathan 12y ago
  Yes and no - they are a standard system that is popular, the laptops are relatively sturdy and the IT expertise on adminning macs is pretty widespread. Note, look at how many startups and techies use macs as primary dev machines - most people in the tech "scene" seem to. Popularity and bandwagons have some level of merit.

revscat 12y ago

This is far from try any longer. My current employer is about 75/25/5 OS X/Windows/Linux for end user machines. The Windows boxes are used by the business types, while the devs and designers use OS X. The prod systems are Linux, and the devops are also Linux. This is for a Fortune-500 company.

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parasubvert 12y ago

I walked around many a modern development shop, and it's often about 70% Apple since around 2008... Especially now with mobile development. Traditional businesses have a Windows legacy to deal with, but that hasn't stopped the vast majority from adopting iOS in droves.