> I personally prefer a world where someone would have to do something like steal my device to gain access to my data to a world where everyone's data is compro

> I personally prefer a world where someone would have to do something like steal my device to gain access to my data to a world where everyone's data is compromised by default all of the time. That's a blatant strawman as that isn't what is being discussed here at all. In BOTH cases (with device encryption or without) the data is held on your device and only on your device. If you choose to upload it to OneDrive/iCloud/Google Drive/etc then that is your business but outside the scope of this "issue." > Maybe that makes me an outlier, but if I had owned one of these devices, I'd be pretty outraged...not unlike some were in the midst of the recent iCloud brouhaha. This issue is nothing like that issue. The fact you seem to think it is means you don't really understand this issue or that issue or both. This issue is that device encryption encrypts your drive, it then backs up your key by default to OneDrive. The data itself is still held on the device encrypted (unless you saved it to OneDrive or copied it into that virtual filesystem). The iCloud "issue" was that iCloud allowed infinite password guesses against an account without warning the owner or imposing a limit on the number of wrong attempts. iCloud is opt-in (during iOS setup), so people opted to have files stored there.