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You also missed the part that you stopped using it for almost 10 years. It is very different now. For example, I can now jump to anywhere in the kernel source t

by tuhdo 12y ago

You also missed the part that you stopped using it for almost 10 years. It is very different now. For example, I can now jump to anywhere in the kernel source tree instantly, jump to any definition or reference instantly. The new features make navigating Linux kernel source like a small project. I cannot do this with Eclipse.

pjmlp 12y ago
I did not stop using it completely.
- tuhdo 12y ago
  You never said this. And even if you did not stop, you answer strongly suggest that you do not use Emacs for serious development anymore, and was out of date with current state of Emacs. If you actually use it, you would know that none of my demos use Clang.
  - pjmlp 12y ago
    Correctly, as I am a GUI oriented person and no longer see a strong value in Emacs vs InteliJ|Netbeans|Eclipse(CDT)|Visual Studio|KDevelop.
    - tuhdo 12y ago
      Yes, since you spread failed information, and I had to post to correct it. There are many things that could not be done in those IDEs you listed, i.e. to debug random binary outside of a project. Did you tried it Ctrl + H for finding files? Completely unnecessary complicated with tons of checkboxes, and slow to search. It does not show me result instantly; meanwhile in Emacs, I could do this: Open file at point anywhere, even in plain text file: http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectile-find-files-dwim-1.gif http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectil... In debugging, Eclipse is no difference than Emacs; both use GDB. For compiling, Eclipse also uses external debugger. The only thing that makes it an IDE is its internal parser, that is broken for large projects and Emacs also has a C/C++ parser anyway. What make Emacs less IDEish than Eclipse?
      - pjmlp 12y ago
        > In debugging, Eclipse is no difference than Emacs; both use GDB Except I only use CDT with Android. GDB is no match to Visual Studio debugging capabilities.
        tuhdo 12y ago
        In what aspect it is no match? Feature-wise, not GUI; GUI is non-factor here. People wrote a kernel without a debugger after all.

by tuhdo 12y ago

pjmlp 12y ago

I did not stop using it completely.

tuhdo 12y ago
You never said this. And even if you did not stop, you answer strongly suggest that you do not use Emacs for serious development anymore, and was out of date with current state of Emacs. If you actually use it, you would know that none of my demos use Clang.
- pjmlp 12y ago
  Correctly, as I am a GUI oriented person and no longer see a strong value in Emacs vs InteliJ|Netbeans|Eclipse(CDT)|Visual Studio|KDevelop.
  - tuhdo 12y ago
    Yes, since you spread failed information, and I had to post to correct it. There are many things that could not be done in those IDEs you listed, i.e. to debug random binary outside of a project. Did you tried it Ctrl + H for finding files? Completely unnecessary complicated with tons of checkboxes, and slow to search. It does not show me result instantly; meanwhile in Emacs, I could do this: Open file at point anywhere, even in plain text file: http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectile-find-files-dwim-1.gif http://tuhdo.github.io/static/helm-projectile/helm-projectil... In debugging, Eclipse is no difference than Emacs; both use GDB. For compiling, Eclipse also uses external debugger. The only thing that makes it an IDE is its internal parser, that is broken for large projects and Emacs also has a C/C++ parser anyway. What make Emacs less IDEish than Eclipse?
    - pjmlp 12y ago
      > In debugging, Eclipse is no difference than Emacs; both use GDB Except I only use CDT with Android. GDB is no match to Visual Studio debugging capabilities.
      - tuhdo 12y ago
        In what aspect it is no match? Feature-wise, not GUI; GUI is non-factor here. People wrote a kernel without a debugger after all.