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I hope you succeed in changing the system. School for most kids is "prison-lite". Like if you don't show up on time for roll call, you get punished by being hel

I hope you succeed in changing the system. School for most kids is "prison-lite". Like if you don't show up on time for roll call, you get punished by being held in recess or forced to pick up garbage around the school. And this is not some third world school I am talking about. This is schools in cupertino, one of the wealthiest and most "progressive" areas in the world. http://www.sethgodin.com/sg/docs/stopstealingdreamsscreen.pdf http://www.sethgodin.com/sg/docs/stopstealingdreamsscreen.pd... > Years ago, five friends and a I were put in charge of a 150 rowdy fifth-graders for a long weekend up in Canada. It was almost impossible to be heard over the din—until I stumbled onto the solution. All we had to say was, “points will be deducted,” and compliance appeared. There weren’t any points and there wasn’t any prize, but merely the threat of lost points was sufficient.

wyager 12y ago
>School for most kids is "prison-lite". The parallels are numerous. You are legally compelled show up under threat of violence (although usually targeted at the child's parents, in the form of being arrested). You are not free to leave when you desire. You lose certain basic human rights while you are there (e.g. [1,2,3,4]). You are subject to the arbitrary authority of non-elected persons. Until recently, you were subject to physical violence at the hands of these persons. Social cliques and violence are relatively common. In many situations, self-expression, experimentation, and curiosity is discouraged. I know, as a child, public school left a bad taste in my mouth for some of these reasons. [1] Board of Education of Independent School District #92 of Pottawatomie County v. Earls [2] Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser [3] New Jersey v. T.L.O. [4] Morse v. Frederick
- logicchains 12y ago
  At least there's one good thing about it: it's a great motivator to work hard and get rich if one is planning on having kids, in order to avoid sending them to public school.
  - logicchains 12y ago
    N.b. to downvoters: The parent comment was a possibly poor attempt at irony. I don't actually think there's anything good about US public schools.
    - mhurron 12y ago
      > I don't actually think there's anything good about US public schools. It's a good thing no one here actually went to one isn't it.
- hypertexthero 12y ago
  Reminds me of Orwell's [Such, Such Were The Joys](http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/joys/english/e_joys http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/joys/english/e_joys).
- dools 12y ago
  "Luther: "High school's a lot like prison. Bad food, high fences... the sex you want, you ain't getting, the sex you're getting... you don't want." http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TheNewGuy http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TheNewGuy

wyager 12y ago

>School for most kids is "prison-lite". The parallels are numerous. You are legally compelled show up under threat of violence (although usually targeted at the child's parents, in the form of being arrested). You are not free to leave when you desire. You lose certain basic human rights while you are there (e.g. [1,2,3,4]). You are subject to the arbitrary authority of non-elected persons. Until recently, you were subject to physical violence at the hands of these persons. Social cliques and violence are relatively common. In many situations, self-expression, experimentation, and curiosity is discouraged. I know, as a child, public school left a bad taste in my mouth for some of these reasons. [1] Board of Education of Independent School District #92 of Pottawatomie County v. Earls [2] Bethel School District #43 v. Fraser [3] New Jersey v. T.L.O. [4] Morse v. Frederick

logicchains 12y ago
At least there's one good thing about it: it's a great motivator to work hard and get rich if one is planning on having kids, in order to avoid sending them to public school.
- logicchains 12y ago
  N.b. to downvoters: The parent comment was a possibly poor attempt at irony. I don't actually think there's anything good about US public schools.
  - mhurron 12y ago
    > I don't actually think there's anything good about US public schools. It's a good thing no one here actually went to one isn't it.
hypertexthero 12y ago
Reminds me of Orwell's [Such, Such Were The Joys](http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/joys/english/e_joys http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/joys/english/e_joys).
dools 12y ago
"Luther: "High school's a lot like prison. Bad food, high fences... the sex you want, you ain't getting, the sex you're getting... you don't want." http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TheNewGuy http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/TheNewGuy