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The united states offers investment visas that grant "permanent residence to the individual" to anyone who invests over $1,000,000 in several industries. - http

The united states offers investment visas that grant "permanent residence to the individual" to anyone who invests over $1,000,000 in several industries. - http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-through-job/green-card-through-investment http://www.uscis.gov/green-card/green-card-through-job/green...

borski 12y ago
A green card is different from a passport. You should be able to become a citizen if you live in a place long enough and pledge allegiance. Incentivizing the wealthy to come live in a place is nothing new, but then they still have to go through the same process of pledging allegiance and living here long enough to become citizens.
- borski 12y ago
  Why the down votes?
  - UnoriginalGuy 12y ago
    I didn't but likely your ridiculous line implying that poor and rich people "still have to go through the same process." That's obviously nonsense. Poor people cannot legally gain entry at all, rich people write a cheque, and then get residence after a few years. If you've ever read some of the, frankly, heartbreaking immigration stories (e.g. families separated for sometimes tens of years). The US seems to have an undisclosed quota in certain parts of the world and a lot of people get rejected for unquantifiable reasons (and then get accepted the second time without changing their status/application). This even seems to occur on family visas which it shouldn't. You just dismissing the entire vias struggle into living within a country for a couple of years and saying a stupid pledge is ignorant and completely out of touch with the reality for millions of poor people (and even many in the "middle class").
    - borski 12y ago
      My parents are (poor) immigrants. It took them 26 years to obtain green cards. I'm very familiar with the struggle. All I meant was that this is a far better situation than being able to straight-up buy Citizenship, say, from Malta.
- mikeash 12y ago
  Practically speaking, it's essentially impossible to become a US citizen without permanent residency. If you have permanent residency, then it's just about a foregone conclusion that you can obtain citizenship after you spend enough time living here. In terms of who can become a US citizen without being born one, the question of who is allowed to get a green card is close to being the same question.

borski 12y ago

A green card is different from a passport. You should be able to become a citizen if you live in a place long enough and pledge allegiance. Incentivizing the wealthy to come live in a place is nothing new, but then they still have to go through the same process of pledging allegiance and living here long enough to become citizens.

borski 12y ago
Why the down votes?
- UnoriginalGuy 12y ago
  I didn't but likely your ridiculous line implying that poor and rich people "still have to go through the same process." That's obviously nonsense. Poor people cannot legally gain entry at all, rich people write a cheque, and then get residence after a few years. If you've ever read some of the, frankly, heartbreaking immigration stories (e.g. families separated for sometimes tens of years). The US seems to have an undisclosed quota in certain parts of the world and a lot of people get rejected for unquantifiable reasons (and then get accepted the second time without changing their status/application). This even seems to occur on family visas which it shouldn't. You just dismissing the entire vias struggle into living within a country for a couple of years and saying a stupid pledge is ignorant and completely out of touch with the reality for millions of poor people (and even many in the "middle class").
  - borski 12y ago
    My parents are (poor) immigrants. It took them 26 years to obtain green cards. I'm very familiar with the struggle. All I meant was that this is a far better situation than being able to straight-up buy Citizenship, say, from Malta.
mikeash 12y ago
Practically speaking, it's essentially impossible to become a US citizen without permanent residency. If you have permanent residency, then it's just about a foregone conclusion that you can obtain citizenship after you spend enough time living here. In terms of who can become a US citizen without being born one, the question of who is allowed to get a green card is close to being the same question.