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How can you tell he skips a beat? Or for that matter the difference between beats 1 and 3 vs 2 and 4? Music is such a mystery to me. :/

by tmm 12y ago

teen 12y ago
You know how in every electronic song the beat is going: Boom CLAP Boom CLAP Boom CLAP? The idea is that you clap on the CLAP sound (snare drum), not the boom (bass drum). 1 (bass) 2 (snare) 3 (bass) 4 (snare). To skip a beat you'd probably play the rhythm for a bit normally, then leave out all the bass drum kicks so that the audience only hears the snares. Then that would be the only thing they could clap to. Then you put the Bass back in. Dunno if that helps!
- smeyer 12y ago
  >To skip a beat you'd probably play the rhythm for a bit normally, then leave out all the bass drum kicks so the audience only hears the snares....then put the bass back in While this might get your audience to switch over, this is trying to get your audience to skip (or add) a beat, rather than skipping or adding a beat oneself. You never actually described skipping a beat.
spenuke 12y ago
The vast majority of music has what's known as a meter, which is a cyclical pattern. Just like we can think of time in terms of a neverending stream of occurrences, or choose to think in terms of a 7-day week, we simplify the understanding of musical events by counting in a regularly repeating meter. This song's meter is in 4/4, which means you count 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4, etc. along with the very pulse you feel. Tap your foot. Count "1" when he says the word "Come [with me]". You'll find that they clap every time you say 1 and 3. What he does is the equivalent of cutting out, say, Sunday from one week of the calendar, and so their regularly repeating clap now falls on a different day than it was falling on before. Does that help?
- pavel_lishin 12y ago
  After reading your comment, I realized that I was counting at half the speed I was supposed to.
  - SapphireSun 12y ago
    Only for common (4/4) time. That's the most popular one though. ;)
- karlb 12y ago
  I like the days-of-the-week analogy, but in this case he adds a fifth beat to a bar, so it's like he's adding a fifth day to an otherwise four-day week, as follows: 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C …so the claps (C) move from the 1 and 3 to the 2 and 4. That fifth beat occurs at the 40-second mark, and can be spotted because he stops playing with the left hand and the right hand simply repeats what it played in the previous beat.
protonfish 12y ago
You know how the rhythm to "We Will Rock You" by Queen goes Stomp Stomp Clap, Stomp Stomp Clap The "Claps" are on 2 and 4, the first stomps of the pairs are on 1 and 3. Now imagine some boob wearing his sunglasses like a hat and a popped collar starts clapping on 1 and 3: Stomp Stomp Clap, Stomp Stomp Clap Clap Clap That'd be annoying. The looks on Harry Connick Jr.'s face before he fixes the clapping tell it all.
- jldugger 12y ago
  IMO, that's 3/4 time. Just because it's confusing.
  - conitpicker 12y ago
    no, it's clearly a duple meter. boom boom clap <rest> boom boom clap <rest>
  - DonPellegrino 12y ago
    No it's not, the "stomps" are halves.
    - gagege 12y ago
      The claps are half notes.
  - munificent 12y ago
    It would be 3/4 without the comma. It's: Stomp Stomp Clap <pause> Stomp Stomp Clap <pause> Not: Stomp Stomp Clap Stomp Stomp Clap
ezy 12y ago
Beats me. (pause) I could hear no difference before or after the switch -- in fact I couldn't hear any beat other than the clapping.
Scalestein 12y ago
I'm gonna try to explain this as best I can through text which is pretty difficult but we'll see how it goes. We can identify beat 1 by listening to where Harry generally starts his vocal phrases. Right a the beginning he sings "Take me home, I'd love to be invited". The words "take" and "i'd" are both on beat 1. Now we have our reference. Count along while listening now if you'd like, it's fun! The beat switch happens around 0:43 but if we listen to the solo section in general we can dissect it. He plays a repeating bass line with his left hand throughout. It is very audible from 0:50-0:53. He is doing some fancy work in the higher register but the bass line is anchoring it. There is a strong beat in this bass line. You can probably hear it naturally. It is the third note he plays in the sequence. This third note is again beat 1. The bass line leads into beat 1 like so: "and-a-ONE". Sing along in your head. Now sing along with the bass line as he goes into his solo. You'll notice that right around 0:39 he stops playing the bass line for a moment. This is where he 'corrects' the audience. After this point the "and-a-ONE" of the bass line is no longing in unison with the clapping. If you kept your count going you'll find that it no longer matches the bass line. After he does this the clapping is now on the TWO and FOUR relative to the bass line. Hope this helps some people. It's pretty damn cool what he did, and so smooth!

How can you tell he skips a beat? Or for that matter the difference between beats 1 and 3 vs 2 and 4? Music is such a mystery to me. :/

by tmm 12y ago

How can you tell he skips a beat? Or for that matter the difference between beats 1 and 3 vs 2 and 4? Music is such a mystery to me. :/

teen 12y ago

You know how in every electronic song the beat is going: Boom CLAP Boom CLAP Boom CLAP? The idea is that you clap on the CLAP sound (snare drum), not the boom (bass drum). 1 (bass) 2 (snare) 3 (bass) 4 (snare). To skip a beat you'd probably play the rhythm for a bit normally, then leave out all the bass drum kicks so that the audience only hears the snares. Then that would be the only thing they could clap to. Then you put the Bass back in. Dunno if that helps!

smeyer 12y ago
>To skip a beat you'd probably play the rhythm for a bit normally, then leave out all the bass drum kicks so the audience only hears the snares....then put the bass back in While this might get your audience to switch over, this is trying to get your audience to skip (or add) a beat, rather than skipping or adding a beat oneself. You never actually described skipping a beat.

spenuke 12y ago

The vast majority of music has what's known as a meter, which is a cyclical pattern. Just like we can think of time in terms of a neverending stream of occurrences, or choose to think in terms of a 7-day week, we simplify the understanding of musical events by counting in a regularly repeating meter. This song's meter is in 4/4, which means you count 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4, etc. along with the very pulse you feel. Tap your foot. Count "1" when he says the word "Come [with me]". You'll find that they clap every time you say 1 and 3. What he does is the equivalent of cutting out, say, Sunday from one week of the calendar, and so their regularly repeating clap now falls on a different day than it was falling on before. Does that help?

pavel_lishin 12y ago
After reading your comment, I realized that I was counting at half the speed I was supposed to.
- SapphireSun 12y ago
  Only for common (4/4) time. That's the most popular one though. ;)
karlb 12y ago
I like the days-of-the-week analogy, but in this case he adds a fifth beat to a bar, so it's like he's adding a fifth day to an otherwise four-day week, as follows: 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 5 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C - C …so the claps (C) move from the 1 and 3 to the 2 and 4. That fifth beat occurs at the 40-second mark, and can be spotted because he stops playing with the left hand and the right hand simply repeats what it played in the previous beat.

protonfish 12y ago

You know how the rhythm to "We Will Rock You" by Queen goes Stomp Stomp Clap, Stomp Stomp Clap The "Claps" are on 2 and 4, the first stomps of the pairs are on 1 and 3. Now imagine some boob wearing his sunglasses like a hat and a popped collar starts clapping on 1 and 3: Stomp Stomp Clap, Stomp Stomp Clap Clap Clap That'd be annoying. The looks on Harry Connick Jr.'s face before he fixes the clapping tell it all.

jldugger 12y ago
IMO, that's 3/4 time. Just because it's confusing.
- conitpicker 12y ago
  no, it's clearly a duple meter. boom boom clap <rest> boom boom clap <rest>
- DonPellegrino 12y ago
  No it's not, the "stomps" are halves.
  - gagege 12y ago
    The claps are half notes.
- munificent 12y ago
  It would be 3/4 without the comma. It's: Stomp Stomp Clap <pause> Stomp Stomp Clap <pause> Not: Stomp Stomp Clap Stomp Stomp Clap

ezy 12y ago

Beats me. (pause) I could hear no difference before or after the switch -- in fact I couldn't hear any beat other than the clapping.

Scalestein 12y ago

I'm gonna try to explain this as best I can through text which is pretty difficult but we'll see how it goes. We can identify beat 1 by listening to where Harry generally starts his vocal phrases. Right a the beginning he sings "Take me home, I'd love to be invited". The words "take" and "i'd" are both on beat 1. Now we have our reference. Count along while listening now if you'd like, it's fun! The beat switch happens around 0:43 but if we listen to the solo section in general we can dissect it. He plays a repeating bass line with his left hand throughout. It is very audible from 0:50-0:53. He is doing some fancy work in the higher register but the bass line is anchoring it. There is a strong beat in this bass line. You can probably hear it naturally. It is the third note he plays in the sequence. This third note is again beat 1. The bass line leads into beat 1 like so: "and-a-ONE". Sing along in your head. Now sing along with the bass line as he goes into his solo. You'll notice that right around 0:39 he stops playing the bass line for a moment. This is where he 'corrects' the audience. After this point the "and-a-ONE" of the bass line is no longing in unison with the clapping. If you kept your count going you'll find that it no longer matches the bass line. After he does this the clapping is now on the TWO and FOUR relative to the bass line. Hope this helps some people. It's pretty damn cool what he did, and so smooth!