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Amazon posts a very positive and promising story on diversity, HN finds a way to post negative comments about Amazon. Makes ya think.

influx 12y ago
Hackernews used to be full of people when shown something new would say, "yes AND!". Now it's full of people who shout, "no BUT!" I came from /. to k5 to hn. Anybody ready for the next iteration yet? I am.
- japesinator 12y ago
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      - reitanqild 12y ago
        I'd be interested as well. can you get one for me as well?
        japesinator 12y ago
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      - duncanhill 12y ago
        So sorry this is so delayed. It's been bizarre lately. Anyway, I can be reached at duncan.hill@live.com
  - alttab 12y ago
    Never heard of it. Whats the angle, who runs it, etc?
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    Invite?
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cjslep 12y ago
> Makes ya think. Sure, and rather than being vague here are mine: "Why is HN being negative? Probably because of the insanely dehumanizing working conditions Amazon warehouse 'contractors' are put in. Why would that prevent HN from celebrating this diversity post? Possibly because it reads like a corporate puff-piece that improves their image without actually improving the working conditions of their warehouse 'contractors'." EDIT: To add, I think celebrating diversity is great. But to do so when workers are under tyrannical working conditions does tend to frame the piece in a 'propoganda' light more so than a genuine 'we care' light.
dreamweapon 12y ago
"Positive and promising" is definitely the spin that Amazon, and many other companies engaged in systematic abuses (labor, environmental, regulatory) would like you to have about their diversity programs. Seen another way, they're merely window dressing.
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x0x0 12y ago
Yeah, mixing engineering and call center employee numbers in the same graph does make me think. It mostly makes me think diversity numbers in jobs that make more than $10 or $12 an hour are shit.

influx 12y ago

Hackernews used to be full of people when shown something new would say, "yes AND!". Now it's full of people who shout, "no BUT!" I came from /. to k5 to hn. Anybody ready for the next iteration yet? I am.

japesinator 12y ago
You might be looking for https://lobste.rs/ https://lobste.rs/
- duncanhill 12y ago
  Yeah, I'd be interested in an invite if at all possible. I'll be the first to admit, though, that I tend to lurk and read more than actively comment.
  - japesinator 12y ago
    No problem, just give me an email and I'll add you
    - reitanqild 12y ago
      I'd be interested as well. can you get one for me as well?
      - japesinator 12y ago
        Not a problem. Just let me know what email you want it to
    - duncanhill 12y ago
      So sorry this is so delayed. It's been bizarre lately. Anyway, I can be reached at duncan.hill@live.com
- alttab 12y ago
  Never heard of it. Whats the angle, who runs it, etc?
  - japesinator 12y ago
    https://lobste.rs/about https://lobste.rs/about
- yoasif_ 12y ago
  Invite?
  - japesinator 12y ago
    No problem, just give me an email and I'll add you

cjslep 12y ago

> Makes ya think. Sure, and rather than being vague here are mine: "Why is HN being negative? Probably because of the insanely dehumanizing working conditions Amazon warehouse 'contractors' are put in. Why would that prevent HN from celebrating this diversity post? Possibly because it reads like a corporate puff-piece that improves their image without actually improving the working conditions of their warehouse 'contractors'." EDIT: To add, I think celebrating diversity is great. But to do so when workers are under tyrannical working conditions does tend to frame the piece in a 'propoganda' light more so than a genuine 'we care' light.

dreamweapon 12y ago

"Positive and promising" is definitely the spin that Amazon, and many other companies engaged in systematic abuses (labor, environmental, regulatory) would like you to have about their diversity programs. Seen another way, they're merely window dressing.

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x0x0 12y ago

Yeah, mixing engineering and call center employee numbers in the same graph does make me think. It mostly makes me think diversity numbers in jobs that make more than $10 or $12 an hour are shit.