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Google Wave: There Will Be Backlash

19 points by vaksel 17y ago

tumult 17y ago
What is this post trying to say? He just kind of babbles on and then ends. Hrm.
- anigbrowl 17y ago
  It's a metaphor for how most Waves will look? (edit: done, andrew)
  - tumult 17y ago
    Are you in the sandbox right now? Add me tumult ~at~ wavesandbox on the dotcom. :)
fname 17y ago
and the MG/Google love fest continues...
ugh 17y ago
Wave is complex and ambitious, some like it, some don’t and we don’t really know whether it will succeed. Now that’s what I call great insight. I would never ever have thought of that.
- steveplace 17y ago
  Google Wave: There will be Noise
- tdavis 17y ago
  It's a risky position for TC to take, though; now they can't make link-bait claims tomorrow about how Wave is an utter failure and a sinking ship that will eventually bring down all of Google.
  - carbocation 17y ago
    Sure they can, so long as they keep saying, "On the one hand, Google Wave is ambitious and could be amazing; on the other hand, it is currently an utter failure." Well, I don't know about the bringing down all of Google bit, but my point is that they could certainly keep going with their balanced, insightless (should be a word), "on the one hand" approach.
- andrewljohnson 17y ago
  You summarized it well. I read 12 paragraphs without getting a single bit on information.
ynniv 17y ago
Yawn... Where's my article downvote?
pohl 17y ago
The most useful piece of information in the article: http://twitter.com/twephanie/status/4497929072 http://twitter.com/twephanie/status/4497929072 It's 7:43am in Sydney right now. Shouldn't be long.
rickharrison 17y ago
If you get an invite, make sure you check out the AccuWeather weather app. I made it, so please give me any feedback you may have.
- tumult 17y ago
  Is it in the sandbox? I'd like to play with.
mpk 17y ago
I'm pleasantly surprised by this article. TC generally doesn't write nice things about dreamers. Because we all know that the first public release of Wave is going to be fraught with problems. Come on, we all know that. Even Google has acknowledged it with their myriad disclaimers on disclosing it early. But we also know that it has the potential to be really, really cool. Using XMPP (an existing standard) to add federation (which is very hard) and promising to open source their own implementation (not just the specs) shows me that Google is serious about making a better open ecosystem. Wave has the potential to change things like SMTP, FTP, IRC, HTTP/HTML did. Useful, decentralized and open. I'll cut them some slack while they're working the kinks out.
akrymski 17y ago
I don't understand how wave will replace email. How will it ever get so popular and overcome the chicken and egg problem? Anyone carry to enlighten me? CampFire solves many of emails problems for particular types of communications. Google docs solves email problems for collaborative document editing. I don't see wave solving the biggest email problems: inbox overload and organization. I don't want yet another communication channel.

19 points by vaksel 17y ago

tumult 17y ago

What is this post trying to say? He just kind of babbles on and then ends. Hrm.

anigbrowl 17y ago
It's a metaphor for how most Waves will look? (edit: done, andrew)
- tumult 17y ago
  Are you in the sandbox right now? Add me tumult ~at~ wavesandbox on the dotcom. :)

fname 17y ago

and the MG/Google love fest continues...

ugh 17y ago

Wave is complex and ambitious, some like it, some don’t and we don’t really know whether it will succeed. Now that’s what I call great insight. I would never ever have thought of that.

steveplace 17y ago
Google Wave: There will be Noise
tdavis 17y ago
It's a risky position for TC to take, though; now they can't make link-bait claims tomorrow about how Wave is an utter failure and a sinking ship that will eventually bring down all of Google.
- carbocation 17y ago
  Sure they can, so long as they keep saying, "On the one hand, Google Wave is ambitious and could be amazing; on the other hand, it is currently an utter failure." Well, I don't know about the bringing down all of Google bit, but my point is that they could certainly keep going with their balanced, insightless (should be a word), "on the one hand" approach.
andrewljohnson 17y ago
You summarized it well. I read 12 paragraphs without getting a single bit on information.

ynniv 17y ago

Yawn... Where's my article downvote?

pohl 17y ago

The most useful piece of information in the article: http://twitter.com/twephanie/status/4497929072 http://twitter.com/twephanie/status/4497929072 It's 7:43am in Sydney right now. Shouldn't be long.

rickharrison 17y ago

If you get an invite, make sure you check out the AccuWeather weather app. I made it, so please give me any feedback you may have.

tumult 17y ago
Is it in the sandbox? I'd like to play with.

mpk 17y ago

I'm pleasantly surprised by this article. TC generally doesn't write nice things about dreamers. Because we all know that the first public release of Wave is going to be fraught with problems. Come on, we all know that. Even Google has acknowledged it with their myriad disclaimers on disclosing it early. But we also know that it has the potential to be really, really cool. Using XMPP (an existing standard) to add federation (which is very hard) and promising to open source their own implementation (not just the specs) shows me that Google is serious about making a better open ecosystem. Wave has the potential to change things like SMTP, FTP, IRC, HTTP/HTML did. Useful, decentralized and open. I'll cut them some slack while they're working the kinks out.

akrymski 17y ago

I don't understand how wave will replace email. How will it ever get so popular and overcome the chicken and egg problem? Anyone carry to enlighten me? CampFire solves many of emails problems for particular types of communications. Google docs solves email problems for collaborative document editing. I don't see wave solving the biggest email problems: inbox overload and organization. I don't want yet another communication channel.