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Bookmarks seems like an outdated technology. With the resources Google have, it would be cool if they could create a site where you can follow other sites as th

Bookmarks seems like an outdated technology. With the resources Google have, it would be cool if they could create a site where you can follow other sites as they update. Perhaps this site could then even differentiate between different 'streams' or 'feeds' from sites. And in this workflow you could add the 'stars' to articles and updates you would find interesting. I hope someday they will create or have this system evolve into something like that, which would be a lot more useful.

BostonEnginerd 12y ago
A great name for this product would be Google Reader!
- grinich 12y ago
  Or Pinterest...
senthil_rajasek 12y ago
"Bookmarks seems like an outdated technology." Sorry, I disagree. I use this all the time on my phone. Bookmarks allow me to quickly access pages without a lot of typing on my phone.
flippyhead 12y ago
> Bookmarks seems like an outdated technology. I agree. I made http://fetching.io http://fetching.io because I hate having to remember to save something just to easily find it later. Everything you see should be indexed and easily searchable.
- thesash 12y ago
  Your privacy policy page returns a 404...
  - nacs 12y ago
    404 for me too. Manually changed the URL to http://fetching.io/privacy/ http://fetching.io/privacy/ (guessed) and it worked.
- esMazer 12y ago
  looks interesting, would be interested into understanding how it works. Also got a 404 when I visited http://fetching.io/privacy-policy http://fetching.io/privacy-policy
- jrsnyder 12y ago
  Cool! I was just thinking about building something like this myself, after reaching the point where I save almost everything I read to Diigo, just to get searchability.
  - StavrosK 12y ago
    There are lots of services like this. I made https://historio.us/ https://historio.us/ back in 2009, when no full-text service existed (as far as I recall).
totallynewuser 12y ago
Google Now shows me two or three cards with articles each day. They seem to be based off of my search history so sometimes they aren't relevant and they are occasionally duplicated in newsstand but I think they're heading in that direction.
- k-mcgrady 12y ago
  The sources of the articles I get recommended on Now are always really spammy looking blogs.
XaspR8d 12y ago
I had to return here because I got whooshed by your comment. (I see now some have picked up on it.)
rgovind 12y ago
I totally agree. I think we should have "personal search engine". May be a chrome plugin or something. It keeps track of every webpage I visited and searches those pages to get to relevant information. If I view "Thai Red Curry recipe" page some months ago, when I search for the term again, the plugin should be able to bring up the same result based on amount of time I spent on the page. This way, I have access to stuff that I forgot to bookmark.
qwerta 12y ago
I am afraid in this case Google has become headless chicken and evolution now goes backward.
loneranger_11x 12y ago
We built http://filr.io http://filr.io for the same purpose. You can follow feeds from various content sources. These feeds could be based on rss or any kind of content that changes over time. Everything you read is tracked as read/clicked so that you can search using those filters. Also tagging and creation of own channel(invite only) is allowed. Examples: http://filr.io/channel/hackernews http://filr.io/channel/hackernews http://filr.io/channel/Wikipedia-Picture-of-the-day http://filr.io/channel/Wikipedia-Picture-of-the-day http://filr.io/channel/imdb-posters http://filr.io/channel/imdb-posters
- mwilcox 12y ago
  With all these different ways of doing it, we're going to need some sort of syndication. It would need to be really simple though.
  - rgrieselhuber 12y ago
    Maybe we could use XML as a standard format.
  - StavrosK 12y ago
    Really simple syndication? Impossible.
  - pulkitanand 12y ago
    The problem with RSS is that the publisher needs to support it, and quite a few are actively moving away from it. For example, Wikipedia Picture of the Day RSS feeds don't work anymore: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Press_releases/Picture_of_the_Day_RSS https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Press_releases/Pi... Also, considering the "fire-hose" nature of typical RSS feeds, there needs to be an intelligent layer that sits between it and the user for it to be useful.
    - mcovey 12y ago
      > considering the "fire-hose" nature of typical RSS feeds, there needs to be an intelligent layer that sits between it and the user for it to be useful. I have to disagree with that, I enjoy my RSS feeds uncensored, if a feed has too low of a signal to noise ratio then I unsubscribe. I have a few of my own filters set up in InoReader for stuff that I'm absolutely sick of hearing about, but none if it is filtered for me "intelligently". There are plenty of services built on top of RSS that do filter and remix the content already, however.
CitizenKane 12y ago
My company is developing a product to make bookmarks useful again. Sadly, this is an area that hasn't seen much work. We've though about getting streams of data (RSS feeds, etc.) that automatically come in, but we haven't really decided which direction we'd like to go with it. We're currently focused more on core functionality, just making sure that it's insanely fast to save and find links (and to make sure they stay out of your e-mail inbox). Would love to hear your thoughts, or if you'd be interested in trying out our private beta we would love the feedback. If you're interested my contact info is in my profile.
squeaky-clean 12y ago
Ok, now I just re-read your comment and figured out the joke. That's some serious sarcasm talent, haha. Still going to (mostly) keep my comment though because of all the other comments that refer to this as "bookmarking" or mention "fixing bookmarks" with some sort of feed. These are entirely different systems to me. We just happen to use bookmarks to keep track of feeds / updating websites. I have lots of bookmarks I keep for static content that I want to refer to constantly. Blog posts, specific documentation pages, Stack Overflow answers, etc. It's nice to just begin typing "Python async..." chrome's suggestions will show me my bookmarked link. I've been looking into a better way to do this as my bookmarks grow, searching by page content would be a nice feature too. (I hear about Pinboard a lot on HN, and I've been meaning to look into it. This manager seems neat as well. However that's for another comment/thread). But that way of using bookmarks is a different goal than "bookmarking" a news website, a forum, etc. And I agree with you in that regard, that bookmarks still seem the best way to manage this is sort of silly. What you describe is something else, and certainly something which would be useful, but it's not a bookmark. A bookmark doesn't tell you when your favorite author has released a new book, or turn the page in a book for you. It holds a specific page that you'd like to return to, and it does that job very well.
- sliekasbekelniu 12y ago
  Disclaimer: I'm just a User. Though it has it's rough edges, but after using it, for a year, I think, It's awesome. Dragdis[0] actually solves a lot of bookmarking problems. And they have mobile app coming, which is really nice to use (in closed beta now). And the fact that you can bookmark just about anything you wan't. Not just a page, but for example a specific fragment of code/text/video/etc. and the link will be associated automatically. And when searching or browsing through your collection, your "dragged" info appears first rather than link. See for yourself [0]. [0] - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dragdis/fiekimdgbphfmnlbiahcfdgcipcopmep https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dragdis/fiekimdgbp...
Tyrant505 12y ago
Yea.. bookmarking sucks. All i do is export every month to sites I barely visit again. Something better has to be created.
- Tyrant505 12y ago
  A self reply rather then edit: I'd also like to share my bookmarks, to which I have added the touch of folder organization..
- wahsd 12y ago
  I actually think Google could, in spite of themselves, be on to something that they may not even realize yet. Actually, I think fetching.io is onto something that they may not be aware of either.
ajcarpy2005 12y ago
I was about to ask if you knew of iGoogle but I guess that was dicontinued in '13

BostonEnginerd 12y ago

A great name for this product would be Google Reader!

grinich 12y ago
Or Pinterest...

senthil_rajasek 12y ago

"Bookmarks seems like an outdated technology." Sorry, I disagree. I use this all the time on my phone. Bookmarks allow me to quickly access pages without a lot of typing on my phone.

flippyhead 12y ago

> Bookmarks seems like an outdated technology. I agree. I made http://fetching.io http://fetching.io because I hate having to remember to save something just to easily find it later. Everything you see should be indexed and easily searchable.

thesash 12y ago
Your privacy policy page returns a 404...
- nacs 12y ago
  404 for me too. Manually changed the URL to http://fetching.io/privacy/ http://fetching.io/privacy/ (guessed) and it worked.
esMazer 12y ago
looks interesting, would be interested into understanding how it works. Also got a 404 when I visited http://fetching.io/privacy-policy http://fetching.io/privacy-policy
jrsnyder 12y ago
Cool! I was just thinking about building something like this myself, after reaching the point where I save almost everything I read to Diigo, just to get searchability.
- StavrosK 12y ago
  There are lots of services like this. I made https://historio.us/ https://historio.us/ back in 2009, when no full-text service existed (as far as I recall).

totallynewuser 12y ago

Google Now shows me two or three cards with articles each day. They seem to be based off of my search history so sometimes they aren't relevant and they are occasionally duplicated in newsstand but I think they're heading in that direction.

k-mcgrady 12y ago
The sources of the articles I get recommended on Now are always really spammy looking blogs.

XaspR8d 12y ago

I had to return here because I got whooshed by your comment. (I see now some have picked up on it.)

rgovind 12y ago

I totally agree. I think we should have "personal search engine". May be a chrome plugin or something. It keeps track of every webpage I visited and searches those pages to get to relevant information. If I view "Thai Red Curry recipe" page some months ago, when I search for the term again, the plugin should be able to bring up the same result based on amount of time I spent on the page. This way, I have access to stuff that I forgot to bookmark.

qwerta 12y ago

I am afraid in this case Google has become headless chicken and evolution now goes backward.

loneranger_11x 12y ago

We built http://filr.io http://filr.io for the same purpose. You can follow feeds from various content sources. These feeds could be based on rss or any kind of content that changes over time. Everything you read is tracked as read/clicked so that you can search using those filters. Also tagging and creation of own channel(invite only) is allowed. Examples: http://filr.io/channel/hackernews http://filr.io/channel/hackernews http://filr.io/channel/Wikipedia-Picture-of-the-day http://filr.io/channel/Wikipedia-Picture-of-the-day http://filr.io/channel/imdb-posters http://filr.io/channel/imdb-posters

mwilcox 12y ago
With all these different ways of doing it, we're going to need some sort of syndication. It would need to be really simple though.
- rgrieselhuber 12y ago
  Maybe we could use XML as a standard format.
- StavrosK 12y ago
  Really simple syndication? Impossible.
- pulkitanand 12y ago
  The problem with RSS is that the publisher needs to support it, and quite a few are actively moving away from it. For example, Wikipedia Picture of the Day RSS feeds don't work anymore: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Press_releases/Picture_of_the_Day_RSS https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Press_releases/Pi... Also, considering the "fire-hose" nature of typical RSS feeds, there needs to be an intelligent layer that sits between it and the user for it to be useful.
  - mcovey 12y ago
    > considering the "fire-hose" nature of typical RSS feeds, there needs to be an intelligent layer that sits between it and the user for it to be useful. I have to disagree with that, I enjoy my RSS feeds uncensored, if a feed has too low of a signal to noise ratio then I unsubscribe. I have a few of my own filters set up in InoReader for stuff that I'm absolutely sick of hearing about, but none if it is filtered for me "intelligently". There are plenty of services built on top of RSS that do filter and remix the content already, however.

CitizenKane 12y ago

My company is developing a product to make bookmarks useful again. Sadly, this is an area that hasn't seen much work. We've though about getting streams of data (RSS feeds, etc.) that automatically come in, but we haven't really decided which direction we'd like to go with it. We're currently focused more on core functionality, just making sure that it's insanely fast to save and find links (and to make sure they stay out of your e-mail inbox). Would love to hear your thoughts, or if you'd be interested in trying out our private beta we would love the feedback. If you're interested my contact info is in my profile.

squeaky-clean 12y ago

Ok, now I just re-read your comment and figured out the joke. That's some serious sarcasm talent, haha. Still going to (mostly) keep my comment though because of all the other comments that refer to this as "bookmarking" or mention "fixing bookmarks" with some sort of feed. These are entirely different systems to me. We just happen to use bookmarks to keep track of feeds / updating websites. I have lots of bookmarks I keep for static content that I want to refer to constantly. Blog posts, specific documentation pages, Stack Overflow answers, etc. It's nice to just begin typing "Python async..." chrome's suggestions will show me my bookmarked link. I've been looking into a better way to do this as my bookmarks grow, searching by page content would be a nice feature too. (I hear about Pinboard a lot on HN, and I've been meaning to look into it. This manager seems neat as well. However that's for another comment/thread). But that way of using bookmarks is a different goal than "bookmarking" a news website, a forum, etc. And I agree with you in that regard, that bookmarks still seem the best way to manage this is sort of silly. What you describe is something else, and certainly something which would be useful, but it's not a bookmark. A bookmark doesn't tell you when your favorite author has released a new book, or turn the page in a book for you. It holds a specific page that you'd like to return to, and it does that job very well.

sliekasbekelniu 12y ago
Disclaimer: I'm just a User. Though it has it's rough edges, but after using it, for a year, I think, It's awesome. Dragdis[0] actually solves a lot of bookmarking problems. And they have mobile app coming, which is really nice to use (in closed beta now). And the fact that you can bookmark just about anything you wan't. Not just a page, but for example a specific fragment of code/text/video/etc. and the link will be associated automatically. And when searching or browsing through your collection, your "dragged" info appears first rather than link. See for yourself [0]. [0] - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dragdis/fiekimdgbphfmnlbiahcfdgcipcopmep https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dragdis/fiekimdgbp...

Tyrant505 12y ago

Yea.. bookmarking sucks. All i do is export every month to sites I barely visit again. Something better has to be created.

Tyrant505 12y ago
A self reply rather then edit: I'd also like to share my bookmarks, to which I have added the touch of folder organization..
wahsd 12y ago
I actually think Google could, in spite of themselves, be on to something that they may not even realize yet. Actually, I think fetching.io is onto something that they may not be aware of either.

ajcarpy2005 12y ago

I was about to ask if you knew of iGoogle but I guess that was dicontinued in '13