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Frozen. Had a Swedish guy (shop owner) living with another guy and they both had a bunch of kids. Described the other guy and kids as his "family." See point

Frozen. Had a Swedish guy (shop owner) living with another guy and they both had a bunch of kids. Described the other guy and kids as his "family." See point #5 in this article's list: http://mic.com/articles/79455/7-moments-that-made-frozen-the-most-progressive-disney-movie-ever http://mic.com/articles/79455/7-moments-that-made-frozen-the...

cronin101 12y ago
Unrelated clarification but, judging by the lutefisk, the shop owner is actually Norwegian and not Swedish. Just a heads up so you don't make the mistake in less forgiving Scandinavian company next time ;-)
- robin_reala 12y ago
  What’s the differences between lutfish in Norway and Sweden? I’ve eaten it in southern Sweden with it presented to me as traditionally Swedish.
  - dagw 12y ago
    The main difference is that Swedes spell it Lutfisk and Norwegians Lutefisk. Lutfish is just as traditional and (un)popular in both Norway and Sweden, and as far as I can tell the base recipe is basically the same in both countries. The only difference between the regions are the condiments and side dishes it is served with.
    - kiiski 12y ago
      I think Norwegians make it from cod, while Swedes (and we Finns) use ling.
JeremyNT 12y ago
> Had a Swedish guy (shop owner) living with another guy and they both had a bunch of kids. Described the other guy and kids as his "family." This is quite a stretch. As the father of a young child I have seen Frozen more times than I am proud to admit, and while it could be that the large man in the sauna is the shopkeeper's husband, he could just as easily be the shopkeeper's son, while the smaller woman in the scene is the shopkeeper's wife. Even if you assume this to canonically be a gay relationship in a Disney movie (and it would, I suppose, be the first), it's a tiny throwaway moment in the life of a minor character which is easy to miss completely. This is hardly "taking a stand" as the grandparent post suggested.
- mkr-hn 12y ago
  A minor throwaway moment in the life of a minor character is a huge improvement over the status quo of complete absence just a handful of years ago. There were gay characters in media, but most of them were walking stereotypes.
  - benologist 12y ago
    I've also had the dubious pleasure of watching that movie dozens of times with my daughter, it looks a lot like that character is just his son?
    - mkr-hn 12y ago
      I haven't seen it.
      - DanBC 12y ago
        The shopkeeper ahs a few lines and is on screen for a few minutes. The family is onscreen for perhaps one or two seconds. Certainly less than 5 seconds. There is absolutely no mention of the nature of the family in the film. This is the example being used to show Disney is "progressive"? An ambiguous possibly gay family that gets less than 5 seconds screen time? Saying that this miniscule gesture is hetter than nothing is missing the big point. It's the twenty first century - Disney should have had gay characters and even gay leads by mow. And for all its progressiveness Frozen still has a scene where mental illness is linked to danger using stigmatising language.
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tommorris 12y ago
I don't really watch Disney movies, but I do know that the Frozen soundtrack is the only Disney music I've ever heard playing in a London gay bar.

cronin101 12y ago

Unrelated clarification but, judging by the lutefisk, the shop owner is actually Norwegian and not Swedish. Just a heads up so you don't make the mistake in less forgiving Scandinavian company next time ;-)

robin_reala 12y ago
What’s the differences between lutfish in Norway and Sweden? I’ve eaten it in southern Sweden with it presented to me as traditionally Swedish.
- dagw 12y ago
  The main difference is that Swedes spell it Lutfisk and Norwegians Lutefisk. Lutfish is just as traditional and (un)popular in both Norway and Sweden, and as far as I can tell the base recipe is basically the same in both countries. The only difference between the regions are the condiments and side dishes it is served with.
  - kiiski 12y ago
    I think Norwegians make it from cod, while Swedes (and we Finns) use ling.

JeremyNT 12y ago

> Had a Swedish guy (shop owner) living with another guy and they both had a bunch of kids. Described the other guy and kids as his "family." This is quite a stretch. As the father of a young child I have seen Frozen more times than I am proud to admit, and while it could be that the large man in the sauna is the shopkeeper's husband, he could just as easily be the shopkeeper's son, while the smaller woman in the scene is the shopkeeper's wife. Even if you assume this to canonically be a gay relationship in a Disney movie (and it would, I suppose, be the first), it's a tiny throwaway moment in the life of a minor character which is easy to miss completely. This is hardly "taking a stand" as the grandparent post suggested.

mkr-hn 12y ago
A minor throwaway moment in the life of a minor character is a huge improvement over the status quo of complete absence just a handful of years ago. There were gay characters in media, but most of them were walking stereotypes.
- benologist 12y ago
  I've also had the dubious pleasure of watching that movie dozens of times with my daughter, it looks a lot like that character is just his son?
  - mkr-hn 12y ago
    I haven't seen it.
    - DanBC 12y ago
      The shopkeeper ahs a few lines and is on screen for a few minutes. The family is onscreen for perhaps one or two seconds. Certainly less than 5 seconds. There is absolutely no mention of the nature of the family in the film. This is the example being used to show Disney is "progressive"? An ambiguous possibly gay family that gets less than 5 seconds screen time? Saying that this miniscule gesture is hetter than nothing is missing the big point. It's the twenty first century - Disney should have had gay characters and even gay leads by mow. And for all its progressiveness Frozen still has a scene where mental illness is linked to danger using stigmatising language.

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tommorris 12y ago

I don't really watch Disney movies, but I do know that the Frozen soundtrack is the only Disney music I've ever heard playing in a London gay bar.