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They are certainly converging ever closer to the truth. They should just come out and say Jesus never existed as well, and they are not sure there is a god and

They are certainly converging ever closer to the truth. They should just come out and say Jesus never existed as well, and they are not sure there is a god and apologize for being the biggest trolls in the history of humanity. Then they would gain some respect. This is the organization that to this day stays opposed to reason, advancement of science that meddles into research and politics and tells other people what they must think and do because of what they believe without evidence and that has done the biggest damage to progress of civilization and horrible destruction of ancient civilizations and their achievements, now comes to us with an ingratiating smile, because it had to give up so much power, and says how it stands for progress. But we should not forget how it behaved when it really did think it had god on its side.

uid 12y ago
> They are certainly converging ever closer to the truth. What the pope said last week isn't a new position - the Catholic church and evolution have never been in conflict. There was no position for a long time while Catholic scientists worked on evolution, but it was formally accepted in 1950, which in terms of the Catholic church moving on an issue is pretty quick.
- super_mario 12y ago
  No, it isn't a new position, but let's not pretend like Catholic church has accepted evolution either. Catholic church still believes in theistic evolution, i.e. evolution where god must interfere at critical times and not in unguided evolution though natural selection, which is the actual scientific theory. Theistic evolution is not evolution and it is in principle unscientific. If you really care to find out what Catholic church says about evolution take a look here: http://conservation.catholic.org/magisterium_is_concerned_with_qu.htm http://conservation.catholic.org/magisterium_is_concerned_wi...
  - venomsnake 12y ago
    Actually absolutely nothing contradicts the idea of evolution with the concept of earth being slightly bigger dish seeded with life. After all we do the same on small scale every time we bake.
rsynnott 12y ago
> They should just come out and say Jesus never existed as well Most historians are of the opinion that Jesus DID exist (though, obviously not that he was the son of God).
- Cthulhu_ 12y ago
  Which ones? There was a meta-research done the other day, where the works of 130+ historians from that era was analyzed; only one made note of even the existence of Jesus, and it's pretty certain that that section wasn't put there by the original author (different writing style, sudden change of topic, etc).
  - rmc 12y ago
    Modern historians.

uid 12y ago

> They are certainly converging ever closer to the truth. What the pope said last week isn't a new position - the Catholic church and evolution have never been in conflict. There was no position for a long time while Catholic scientists worked on evolution, but it was formally accepted in 1950, which in terms of the Catholic church moving on an issue is pretty quick.

super_mario 12y ago
No, it isn't a new position, but let's not pretend like Catholic church has accepted evolution either. Catholic church still believes in theistic evolution, i.e. evolution where god must interfere at critical times and not in unguided evolution though natural selection, which is the actual scientific theory. Theistic evolution is not evolution and it is in principle unscientific. If you really care to find out what Catholic church says about evolution take a look here: http://conservation.catholic.org/magisterium_is_concerned_with_qu.htm http://conservation.catholic.org/magisterium_is_concerned_wi...
- venomsnake 12y ago
  Actually absolutely nothing contradicts the idea of evolution with the concept of earth being slightly bigger dish seeded with life. After all we do the same on small scale every time we bake.

rsynnott 12y ago

> They should just come out and say Jesus never existed as well Most historians are of the opinion that Jesus DID exist (though, obviously not that he was the son of God).

Cthulhu_ 12y ago
Which ones? There was a meta-research done the other day, where the works of 130+ historians from that era was analyzed; only one made note of even the existence of Jesus, and it's pretty certain that that section wasn't put there by the original author (different writing style, sudden change of topic, etc).
- rmc 12y ago
  Modern historians.