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hmm ,i guess he is talking about Alan Turing who was literaly sentenced to a horrible treatment for being gay. That's one of the greatest shame of UK,it symbol

by aikah 12y ago

hmm ,i guess he is talking about Alan Turing who was literaly sentenced to a horrible treatment for being gay. That's one of the greatest shame of UK,it symbolizes bigotery in its purest form.

oneeyedpigeon 12y ago
Compared to which country that has never persecuted anyone for being gay?
- aikah 12y ago
  This isnt a bigotery contest hey? I was talking from the point of view of someone who has the greatest respect for what Turing has done.I mean that's a shame that everything he has done for his country mattered very little when he was judged for being gay.
  - omonra 12y ago
    Bigotry is a wrong word to use (afaik) in a historical context. It simply means 'what we consider unacceptable by today's social norms'. It was absolutely stupid and unjust (since most upper classes were involved in buggery in school anyways) - but calling it bigoted is like saying 'it was so yellow of them to do'.
  - oneeyedpigeon 12y ago
    OK, maybe I mis-read your original comment. It came across as being very anti-UK: "That's one of the greatest shame of UK,it symbolizes bigotery in its purest form." but I accept I might have read stronger sentiment into that than was intended.
oracuk 12y ago
It was one of our (many) great failings and as a nation we have accepted that: Prime Ministers Apology: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-alan-turing http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-a... Royal Pardon: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Alan-Turing-granted-Royal-pardon-by-the-Queen.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Al...
- thathonkey 12y ago
  Well, at least there's that.
- natch 12y ago
  Is it possible to knight someone posthumously? Has this happened?
  - crazypyro 12y ago
    No. No. In fact, in past times ( of kings and queens), one man was killed in a battle and his brother was given a much higher title because you cannot give the honorable title to a deceased individual.
    - codeoclock 12y ago
      Not only can you not knight deceased people, but when knights die they lose their title. #QuiteInteresting. #whenwillhnsupporthashtags.

by aikah 12y ago

hmm ,i guess he is talking about Alan Turing who was literaly sentenced to a horrible treatment for being gay. That's one of the greatest shame of UK,it symbolizes bigotery in its purest form.

oneeyedpigeon 12y ago

Compared to which country that has never persecuted anyone for being gay?

aikah 12y ago
This isnt a bigotery contest hey? I was talking from the point of view of someone who has the greatest respect for what Turing has done.I mean that's a shame that everything he has done for his country mattered very little when he was judged for being gay.
- omonra 12y ago
  Bigotry is a wrong word to use (afaik) in a historical context. It simply means 'what we consider unacceptable by today's social norms'. It was absolutely stupid and unjust (since most upper classes were involved in buggery in school anyways) - but calling it bigoted is like saying 'it was so yellow of them to do'.
- oneeyedpigeon 12y ago
  OK, maybe I mis-read your original comment. It came across as being very anti-UK: "That's one of the greatest shame of UK,it symbolizes bigotery in its purest form." but I accept I might have read stronger sentiment into that than was intended.

oracuk 12y ago

It was one of our (many) great failings and as a nation we have accepted that: Prime Ministers Apology: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-alan-turing http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-a... Royal Pardon: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Alan-Turing-granted-Royal-pardon-by-the-Queen.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/10536246/Al...

thathonkey 12y ago
Well, at least there's that.
natch 12y ago
Is it possible to knight someone posthumously? Has this happened?
- crazypyro 12y ago
  No. No. In fact, in past times ( of kings and queens), one man was killed in a battle and his brother was given a much higher title because you cannot give the honorable title to a deceased individual.
  - codeoclock 12y ago
    Not only can you not knight deceased people, but when knights die they lose their title. #QuiteInteresting. #whenwillhnsupporthashtags.