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Welcome to 2014 where cross-platform means "Ubuntu, CentOS and Mac OS X".

by mapleoin 12y ago

weavejester 12y ago
Cross-platform just means it runs on more than one platform.
_almosnow 12y ago
It's not even 'on Linux'
- _almosnow 12y ago
  What? Am I lying? What is wrong with that comment...
  - olalonde 12y ago
    Ubuntu and Centos are both Linux distributions.
    - _almosnow 12y ago
      Damn... I can't believe you guys really thought that I didn't know that... What I meant is that they don't even say 'works on Linux' like in 'they don't even cover all the most commonly deployed Linux distros'.
      - kbenson 12y ago
        Through the eyes of the author, the original comment probably seems obvious in what it's attempting to convey. Through the eyes of other people, its intent can be ambiguous. In my case, very ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if you were downvoted just as much for being unclear as for people misunderstanding your point.
      - pessimizer 12y ago
        What I think they're saying is that they only test on CentOS and Ubuntu, two significantly different flavors of distro. I don't think they're saying that it won't build on fedora or debian. The idea that they should test on every distro in order to say that it works on Linux is a bit silly.
      - adl 12y ago
        I believe they refer to the 'make package' support. It builds a .deb (for Ubuntu) or a .rpm (for CentOS). The code itself seems very Linux generic.
bonif 12y ago
Should we really think about Windows as a OSS server environment in 2014 ?
- tracker1 12y ago
  Given the number of applications tied to running under a windows server, yes. Also, 80% of azure is running windows host environments... Many small-medium businesses are running a handful of windows servers, and most of them would prefer to simply install new applications on their already existing and under-loaded servers. On the flip side, while I am more than happy to deploy new development projects to Linux hosts, and even in docker containers, I'm still stuck developing under windows, and having to run a VM to do most of my development isn't something I'm all that in favor of.
  - moondowner 12y ago
    "80% of azure is running windows host environments" because .net developers mostly use Azure.
    - tracker1 12y ago
      .Net developers mostly deploy to internal application servers. That said, Azure is about the only cloud provider that really caters to .Net deployments, that is correct and probably accounts for a lot of it. Me employer's next generation of applications is being deployed in Linux on Azure, because of their better support for our legacy applications (some will be around for quite a while)... which is part of why I said that "yes" running in windows is important. If Node and Mongo didn't run in windows three years ago, we wouldn't be migrating to Linux today. I introduced Node in order to improve client-side web resources in a few web projects... once that was in place, it was a natural fit for one-off scripts (importers, timed tasks, etc). From there it became the API service for search (with mongodb behind IIS/ARR). Because of that, and the stability so far, it's our next generation platform. None of that would have happened without being able to run on windows.
- zobzu 12y ago
chrisdone 12y ago
And what a glorious year it was, too!

Welcome to 2014 where cross-platform means "Ubuntu, CentOS and Mac OS X".

weavejester 12y ago

Cross-platform just means it runs on more than one platform.

_almosnow 12y ago

It's not even 'on Linux'

_almosnow 12y ago
What? Am I lying? What is wrong with that comment...
- olalonde 12y ago
  Ubuntu and Centos are both Linux distributions.
  - _almosnow 12y ago
    Damn... I can't believe you guys really thought that I didn't know that... What I meant is that they don't even say 'works on Linux' like in 'they don't even cover all the most commonly deployed Linux distros'.
    - kbenson 12y ago
      Through the eyes of the author, the original comment probably seems obvious in what it's attempting to convey. Through the eyes of other people, its intent can be ambiguous. In my case, very ambiguous. I wouldn't be surprised if you were downvoted just as much for being unclear as for people misunderstanding your point.
    - pessimizer 12y ago
      What I think they're saying is that they only test on CentOS and Ubuntu, two significantly different flavors of distro. I don't think they're saying that it won't build on fedora or debian. The idea that they should test on every distro in order to say that it works on Linux is a bit silly.
    - adl 12y ago
      I believe they refer to the 'make package' support. It builds a .deb (for Ubuntu) or a .rpm (for CentOS). The code itself seems very Linux generic.

bonif 12y ago

Should we really think about Windows as a OSS server environment in 2014 ?

tracker1 12y ago
Given the number of applications tied to running under a windows server, yes. Also, 80% of azure is running windows host environments... Many small-medium businesses are running a handful of windows servers, and most of them would prefer to simply install new applications on their already existing and under-loaded servers. On the flip side, while I am more than happy to deploy new development projects to Linux hosts, and even in docker containers, I'm still stuck developing under windows, and having to run a VM to do most of my development isn't something I'm all that in favor of.
- moondowner 12y ago
  "80% of azure is running windows host environments" because .net developers mostly use Azure.
  - tracker1 12y ago
    .Net developers mostly deploy to internal application servers. That said, Azure is about the only cloud provider that really caters to .Net deployments, that is correct and probably accounts for a lot of it. Me employer's next generation of applications is being deployed in Linux on Azure, because of their better support for our legacy applications (some will be around for quite a while)... which is part of why I said that "yes" running in windows is important. If Node and Mongo didn't run in windows three years ago, we wouldn't be migrating to Linux today. I introduced Node in order to improve client-side web resources in a few web projects... once that was in place, it was a natural fit for one-off scripts (importers, timed tasks, etc). From there it became the API service for search (with mongodb behind IIS/ARR). Because of that, and the stability so far, it's our next generation platform. None of that would have happened without being able to run on windows.
zobzu 12y ago

chrisdone 12y ago

And what a glorious year it was, too!