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Exactly on point for salary and company. There have been many, many letters that I ignore because they don't include a salary range. By not being open about it

Exactly on point for salary and company. There have been many, many letters that I ignore because they don't include a salary range. By not being open about it from the beginning, I become inherently suspicious of any offer given. Not only that, but if a range is not given and they offer me less than what I'm making now, I'll be pissed as I just wasted a day or more going through this process. Also, if I don't know who the company is, I immediately decline. There are certain companies and industries which I am morally opposed to, and if the company believes so strongly that they cannot reveal themselves then the first question that comes to mind is "what is the mystery company doing so bad that they are afraid to let potential candidates know their name?"

Matt_Mickiewicz 12y ago
This is exactly what motivated us to start Hired. The entire industry is rife-full of dodgy players, grey-hat tactics, and bait & switch games. I agree 100% that everybody should demand full transparency, about salary, company name, benefits, signing bonus, company culture, tech stack, etc. before they even waste 30 minutes on a phone call. It's absolutely INSANE in this competitive market to expect someone to jump on a 30 minute phone call to learn basic details about the company & the position.
- computerjunkie 12y ago
  And employers wonder why they can't get the "best talent" in the industry. Why recruiters act so dodgy, I don't know. It sets out a bad example of what the Human Resources Sector is/has become.
- lwhalen 12y ago
  Hired looks pretty cool, but it seems developer-centric. Any plans to add categories for systems administrators/"devops" roles? Also, what's with requiring a photo to complete your resume?
- RecruiterBill 12y ago
  Completely agreed.
Iftheshoefits 12y ago
I'm guessing that most of the time a recruiter won't tell you the company name the reasoning is less about trying to keep the company's business a secret out of fear of some moral objection by a candidate and more about misplaced fear (that you'll go to the company directly instead of through them) or marginal ethics (e.g. the recruiter's company basically lifted the job description from the employer's job ad and re-branded it with the recruiter's info to make it look like they've got a contact--in which case the fear mentioned above isn't misplaced, I suppose).

Matt_Mickiewicz 12y ago

This is exactly what motivated us to start Hired. The entire industry is rife-full of dodgy players, grey-hat tactics, and bait & switch games. I agree 100% that everybody should demand full transparency, about salary, company name, benefits, signing bonus, company culture, tech stack, etc. before they even waste 30 minutes on a phone call. It's absolutely INSANE in this competitive market to expect someone to jump on a 30 minute phone call to learn basic details about the company & the position.

computerjunkie 12y ago
And employers wonder why they can't get the "best talent" in the industry. Why recruiters act so dodgy, I don't know. It sets out a bad example of what the Human Resources Sector is/has become.
lwhalen 12y ago
Hired looks pretty cool, but it seems developer-centric. Any plans to add categories for systems administrators/"devops" roles? Also, what's with requiring a photo to complete your resume?
RecruiterBill 12y ago
Completely agreed.

Iftheshoefits 12y ago

I'm guessing that most of the time a recruiter won't tell you the company name the reasoning is less about trying to keep the company's business a secret out of fear of some moral objection by a candidate and more about misplaced fear (that you'll go to the company directly instead of through them) or marginal ethics (e.g. the recruiter's company basically lifted the job description from the employer's job ad and re-branded it with the recruiter's info to make it look like they've got a contact--in which case the fear mentioned above isn't misplaced, I suppose).