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why? this feels like a red herring fallacy. we're talking about the technology and quality of the cars across time as it relates to safety. you pull in peopl
by noodle 17y ago
why? this feels like a red herring fallacy.
we're talking about the technology and quality of the cars across time as it relates to safety.
you pull in people as drivers and it fundamentally changes what we're talking about. more examples:
"I think it's unfair to compare cars from 50 years ago against cars today without comparing the state of modern traffic laws and speed limits"
"I think it's unfair to compare cars from 50 years ago against cars today without comparing the quality and ubiquity of roads, highways and interstates"
etc.
- dangoldin 17y agoMy general point was that although cars are safer than before, we still need to look at the system they are a part of which affects safety. I don't want people to make the conclusion that it's safer driving now than before - that may or may not be the case.
- joecode 17y agoWell... it is: http://www.roadandtravel.com/safetyandsecurity/highwayfatalityrates.htm http://www.roadandtravel.com/safetyandsecurity/highwayfatali... Note that nationwide statistics are not available that far back, but consider this report from Washington State: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/planning/wtp/datalibrary/Safety/MVFatalities.htm http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/planning/wtp/datalibrary/Safety/MVFa...
- dangoldin 17y agoBut that hasn't necessarily come from car safety although I'm sure that's a large contributor. It can also be attributed to better education, more cracking down on drunk drivers, etc.
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- noodle 17y agoI think it's unfair to compare cars from 50 years ago against cars today without comparing the behavior of the drivers, improvement of safety education, improved laws, better police enforcement, etc.. see what i did there? ;)
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