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Yesterday I had to update my rarely used Windows partition and install some software for work. Virus/Firewall updates, Windows updates, Java updates, repeated

Yesterday I had to update my rarely used Windows partition and install some software for work. Virus/Firewall updates, Windows updates, Java updates, repeated forced reboots (four times in total) and playing hunt and peck with all these 'suspicious behaviour' popups, remembering to untick the 'install dodgy toolbar' checkboxes. I'm starting to feel that a decent package manager is the main reason I continue to use Linux. /rant

canvia 12y ago
Not having to reboot after updates is my favorite part of Linux so far.
- jnbiche 12y ago
  Not having to reboot almost ever is also pretty nice.
  - mod 12y ago
    Ubuntu forces a reboot on kernel upgrades fwiw.
    - jnbiche 12y ago
      I said almost. How often are you upgrading your kernel? Most of us don't upgrade very often.
      - mod 12y ago
        Whenever the automatic update picks it up. So, basically all the time--every week or two, anyway.
  - vhost- 12y ago
    How come I can't reply to "mod" below? https://i.imgur.com/k75wRiK.png https://i.imgur.com/k75wRiK.png All Linux distros require a restart for kernel upgrades if you want to use that new kernel version. Or are you saying that Ubuntu actually forces the user to restart after a new kernel is installed?
wlesieutre 12y ago
The forced reboots thing in Windows is nuts. I installed from Windows 8 media a while back, and to get from that to an up-to-date installation of Windows 8.1 requires a seemingly endless loop of "Check for updates. Install. Reboot. Check for more updates that didn't show up last time!" It's like nobody has told MS about cumulative updates. You can install OS 10.9.0 and go straight through to 10.9.5 with a single update. Maybe this comes from their "enterprisey" system of releasing everything as individual little patches so that IT can decide what to install and what to skip, but it's a nightmare for normal users.
damurdock 12y ago
Just a side note, there's a software called "Unchecky" that will automatically uncheck most "Free Toolbar!" installs. But you're right, it's kind of staggering going from "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to Windows'... whatever. Heck, even most programs in OSX will autoupdate, not to mention Homebrew and Homebrew-cask.
benjin 12y ago
>virus/firewall updates You're still using third-party software for that? There's part of your problem! Getting rid of those would also kill of the "suspicious behavior" popups.

canvia 12y ago

Not having to reboot after updates is my favorite part of Linux so far.

jnbiche 12y ago
Not having to reboot almost ever is also pretty nice.
- mod 12y ago
  Ubuntu forces a reboot on kernel upgrades fwiw.
  - jnbiche 12y ago
    I said almost. How often are you upgrading your kernel? Most of us don't upgrade very often.
    - mod 12y ago
      Whenever the automatic update picks it up. So, basically all the time--every week or two, anyway.
- vhost- 12y ago
  How come I can't reply to "mod" below? https://i.imgur.com/k75wRiK.png https://i.imgur.com/k75wRiK.png All Linux distros require a restart for kernel upgrades if you want to use that new kernel version. Or are you saying that Ubuntu actually forces the user to restart after a new kernel is installed?

wlesieutre 12y ago

The forced reboots thing in Windows is nuts. I installed from Windows 8 media a while back, and to get from that to an up-to-date installation of Windows 8.1 requires a seemingly endless loop of "Check for updates. Install. Reboot. Check for more updates that didn't show up last time!" It's like nobody has told MS about cumulative updates. You can install OS 10.9.0 and go straight through to 10.9.5 with a single update. Maybe this comes from their "enterprisey" system of releasing everything as individual little patches so that IT can decide what to install and what to skip, but it's a nightmare for normal users.

damurdock 12y ago

Just a side note, there's a software called "Unchecky" that will automatically uncheck most "Free Toolbar!" installs. But you're right, it's kind of staggering going from "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to Windows'... whatever. Heck, even most programs in OSX will autoupdate, not to mention Homebrew and Homebrew-cask.

benjin 12y ago

>virus/firewall updates You're still using third-party software for that? There's part of your problem! Getting rid of those would also kill of the "suspicious behavior" popups.