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If you want to understand the drought conditions better, I implore you to watch this Ted talk by environment scientist David Keith: http://www.ted.com/talks/da

If you want to understand the drought conditions better, I implore you to watch this Ted talk by environment scientist David Keith: http://www.ted.com/talks/david_keith_s_surprising_ideas_on_climate_change http://www.ted.com/talks/david_keith_s_surprising_ideas_on_c... To sum it up, governments are engaged in cloud seeding to fight climate change, and they're staying silent on the issue because informing the public is a moral hazard. As a side effect of cloud seeding, certain areas are bound to develop less rain clouds. This causes drought conditions. Spraying chemical compounds over populated areas also has environmental impacts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4WhYKP83zo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4WhYKP83zo "On July 15th, 2014, citizens from Northern California rallied to create the largest attendance ever at the Shasta County Supervisors chambers (400+, chairman Les Baugh confirmed this attendance record at the start of the meeting). The primary purpose of this meeting was to present information that proves there is a very dire heavy metal contamination and UV radiation issue across the Shasta County region (and the world). A list of 10 experts presented data to the board to confirm the legitimacy of the concerns being addressed. At the end of the presentation, the board voted unanimously to investigate the heavy metal contamination and passed resolutions accordingly."

anigbrowl 12y ago
Evidence please - surely you have something better than a 7 year old talk about a proposal and a conspiracy-mongering chemtrails website. I looked at the Documents section there and it's a joke - one white paper from 1966, one guy's investigation of his single diseased rhododendron plant, one unpassed bill introduced by Dennis Kucinich and written by a couple of UFO researchers, and a slide deck on possible geoengineering methods. http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ Sorry, this is kooksville. A reasonable argument would start with a review of meteorological classification and then assert novel observations before introducing theories about possible causes. Instead we have some guy who drones into his camcorder about how sheeple can't remember what real clouds look like.
- Cyther606 12y ago
  Ted.com, and a youtube recording of the Shasta County Board of Supervisors. That's what I linked you to. Your criticism would be better directed at the various websites you have apparently frequented. > Evidence please - surely you have something better than a 7 year old talk about a proposal and a conspiracy-mongering chemtrails website. I looked at the Documents section there and it's a joke - one white paper from 1966, one guy's investigation of his single diseased rhododendron plant, one unpassed bill introduced by Dennis Kucinich and written by a couple of UFO researchers, and a slide deck on possible geoengineering methods. > http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ > Sorry, this is kooksville. A reasonable argument would start with a review of meteorological classification and then assert novel observations before introducing theories about possible causes. Instead we have some guy who drones into his camcorder about how sheeple can't remember what real clouds look like. What made this poster go to the lengths he did? Dennis Kucinich? UFOs? Did he even read what I posted?
  - anigbrowl 12y ago
    The guy leading the presentation to the Shasta County board of supervisors is the same guy who runs http://GeoengineeringWatch.org http://GeoengineeringWatch.org which is the first link in the description of the video. Not wanting to sit through an hour-long video of people making speeches - rarely a good way to get informed on a topic - I went to his website in search of a written summary of his argument. Unfortunately it sent my BS meter straight into the red. If the US and/or other countries are actually seeding clouds on a massive scale, and if there is any evidence of this being linked to the drought in California as you asserted, then I would love to read it.
    - Cyther606 12y ago
      The event lasted 3 hours, and the video was shortened. Sorry but I don't have a transcript. David Lim, a doctoral researcher at the University of Reading, has a much more comprehensive presentation for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zRREd8DZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zRREd8DZQ "This public presentation has been created to introduce the topic of geoengineering to those with limited or no knowledge of the subject. It therefore provides an overview of this lesser known area of science. The talk entitled 'Increases in extreme weather, food prices and illness: the unspoken connection' was held in Trent, Sherborne, Dorset (UK) on 27th March 2013 in front of an 80 strong audience. The 'questions and answers' session lasted 90 minutes and has been excluded from the clip for manageability. The audience consisted of members of the public; it appeared that very few people were aware of geoengineering let alone the science and political issues underpinning this vast topic. A multitude of periphery subjects were also discussed during the Q&A session, leaving many with much to consider... I was a doctoral researcher at the University of Reading (UK) looking at domestic electrical loads, when I stumbled across the science of 'environmental manipulation', encompassing Geoengineering, Weather Modification and Military Operations - all of which pose a significant risk to natural systems. Period. Having investigated the climate change debate and become acquainted with 'the bigger picture' - delineated by topics such as politics, geopolitics, history, meteorology, sociology, economics, physics, metaphysics, quantum mechanics, medicine, law, military and many others - I concluded that something was wrong. In fact many 'things' are wrong with the version of reality that is presented to us by the mainstream media and government. It has taken over 1,500 research hours to comprehensively put together the pieces of the geoengineering puzzle, which pulls in all of the other subjects mentioned afore, it just does. The vast majority of people simply don't have the energy or time to investigate such overarching topics as geoengineering, thus many are left in the dark. Herein, I simply aim to shed some light on this murky area, for those at stage one of 'the journey'..."

anigbrowl 12y ago

Evidence please - surely you have something better than a 7 year old talk about a proposal and a conspiracy-mongering chemtrails website. I looked at the Documents section there and it's a joke - one white paper from 1966, one guy's investigation of his single diseased rhododendron plant, one unpassed bill introduced by Dennis Kucinich and written by a couple of UFO researchers, and a slide deck on possible geoengineering methods. http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ Sorry, this is kooksville. A reasonable argument would start with a review of meteorological classification and then assert novel observations before introducing theories about possible causes. Instead we have some guy who drones into his camcorder about how sheeple can't remember what real clouds look like.

Cyther606 12y ago
Ted.com, and a youtube recording of the Shasta County Board of Supervisors. That's what I linked you to. Your criticism would be better directed at the various websites you have apparently frequented. > Evidence please - surely you have something better than a 7 year old talk about a proposal and a conspiracy-mongering chemtrails website. I looked at the Documents section there and it's a joke - one white paper from 1966, one guy's investigation of his single diseased rhododendron plant, one unpassed bill introduced by Dennis Kucinich and written by a couple of UFO researchers, and a slide deck on possible geoengineering methods. > http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ http://contrailscience.com/kucinich-chemtrails-and-hr-2977/ > Sorry, this is kooksville. A reasonable argument would start with a review of meteorological classification and then assert novel observations before introducing theories about possible causes. Instead we have some guy who drones into his camcorder about how sheeple can't remember what real clouds look like. What made this poster go to the lengths he did? Dennis Kucinich? UFOs? Did he even read what I posted?
- anigbrowl 12y ago
  The guy leading the presentation to the Shasta County board of supervisors is the same guy who runs http://GeoengineeringWatch.org http://GeoengineeringWatch.org which is the first link in the description of the video. Not wanting to sit through an hour-long video of people making speeches - rarely a good way to get informed on a topic - I went to his website in search of a written summary of his argument. Unfortunately it sent my BS meter straight into the red. If the US and/or other countries are actually seeding clouds on a massive scale, and if there is any evidence of this being linked to the drought in California as you asserted, then I would love to read it.
  - Cyther606 12y ago
    The event lasted 3 hours, and the video was shortened. Sorry but I don't have a transcript. David Lim, a doctoral researcher at the University of Reading, has a much more comprehensive presentation for the curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zRREd8DZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-zRREd8DZQ "This public presentation has been created to introduce the topic of geoengineering to those with limited or no knowledge of the subject. It therefore provides an overview of this lesser known area of science. The talk entitled 'Increases in extreme weather, food prices and illness: the unspoken connection' was held in Trent, Sherborne, Dorset (UK) on 27th March 2013 in front of an 80 strong audience. The 'questions and answers' session lasted 90 minutes and has been excluded from the clip for manageability. The audience consisted of members of the public; it appeared that very few people were aware of geoengineering let alone the science and political issues underpinning this vast topic. A multitude of periphery subjects were also discussed during the Q&A session, leaving many with much to consider... I was a doctoral researcher at the University of Reading (UK) looking at domestic electrical loads, when I stumbled across the science of 'environmental manipulation', encompassing Geoengineering, Weather Modification and Military Operations - all of which pose a significant risk to natural systems. Period. Having investigated the climate change debate and become acquainted with 'the bigger picture' - delineated by topics such as politics, geopolitics, history, meteorology, sociology, economics, physics, metaphysics, quantum mechanics, medicine, law, military and many others - I concluded that something was wrong. In fact many 'things' are wrong with the version of reality that is presented to us by the mainstream media and government. It has taken over 1,500 research hours to comprehensively put together the pieces of the geoengineering puzzle, which pulls in all of the other subjects mentioned afore, it just does. The vast majority of people simply don't have the energy or time to investigate such overarching topics as geoengineering, thus many are left in the dark. Herein, I simply aim to shed some light on this murky area, for those at stage one of 'the journey'..."