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I think some of the most interesting findings is how focused the government is on tackling the drug trade. You have to wonder, what is the fear of drugs which

by spydum 12y ago

I think some of the most interesting findings is how focused the government is on tackling the drug trade. You have to wonder, what is the fear of drugs which is driving this? Would a nation with unrestricted drug trade would descend into anarchy and lawlessness? That productivity would tank, and all our money/growth would shrivel up? Are they wrong? It does seem like this would be more terrifying than a few civilian deaths from terrorist attacks.

Zigurd 12y ago
It's not a fear of drugs, it's that the Drug War gets all the aggressive laws and cool toys. It enables self-aggrandizement, ambition, and big budgets.
- jacquesm 12y ago
  And more importantly it gets you votes from scared people.
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darkarmani 12y ago
> You have to wonder, what is the fear of drugs which is driving this? It's near term rewards: job promotions, accomplishments, seizures.
grecy 12y ago
> what is the fear of drugs which is driving this? It's just a good excuse to be perpetually at war, and war makes people very, very rich. Notice how convenient it is that ISIS showed up and suddenly we need to go to war with them just as Al Qaeda and that war were winding down? Pretty soon we'll have an entire generation of adults that have never known peacetime, then being at war will just be normal.
- kristopolous 12y ago
  It's the imperialist narrative. It used to be god's will and then they were savages, then it was eugenics. Then they were socialists and now they are terrorists. This train will keep rolling until we as a people decide with our wallet and ballot "your cover story is bullshit. Stop making up things to deny people sovereignty and stop inventing new euphemisms for war." We as individuals need to be proactive for a meaningful outcome. You can be part of the obstruction and direct the seas of change. Shifts in the status quo only come as a result of personal convictions and a consistent imposition of values. Nobody ever changed things without actually changing the things they do.
- dTal 12y ago
  > Notice how convenient it is that ISIS showed up and suddenly we need to go to war with them just as Al Qaeda and that war were winding down? Take off the tinfoil hat. It's not "convenient", it's what happens when a superpower withdraws from a region creating a huge power vacuum. What are you suggesting, that ISIS is a shadowy plot by Halliburton and the Illuminati? Quite apart from which, the US does need to sort shit out in Iraq, seeing as the current mess is their fault.
  - grecy 12y ago
    > the US does need to sort shit out in Iraq, seeing as the current mess is their fault. How many messes in a row can they create / need to sort out?
    - dTal 12y ago
      I don't think "standard issue dictator likes posturing" and "roving bands of religious crazies armed with Western equipment murdering women and children for sport" are quite the same level of mess.

by spydum 12y ago

Zigurd 12y ago

It's not a fear of drugs, it's that the Drug War gets all the aggressive laws and cool toys. It enables self-aggrandizement, ambition, and big budgets.

jacquesm 12y ago
And more importantly it gets you votes from scared people.

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darkarmani 12y ago

> You have to wonder, what is the fear of drugs which is driving this? It's near term rewards: job promotions, accomplishments, seizures.

grecy 12y ago

> what is the fear of drugs which is driving this? It's just a good excuse to be perpetually at war, and war makes people very, very rich. Notice how convenient it is that ISIS showed up and suddenly we need to go to war with them just as Al Qaeda and that war were winding down? Pretty soon we'll have an entire generation of adults that have never known peacetime, then being at war will just be normal.

kristopolous 12y ago
It's the imperialist narrative. It used to be god's will and then they were savages, then it was eugenics. Then they were socialists and now they are terrorists. This train will keep rolling until we as a people decide with our wallet and ballot "your cover story is bullshit. Stop making up things to deny people sovereignty and stop inventing new euphemisms for war." We as individuals need to be proactive for a meaningful outcome. You can be part of the obstruction and direct the seas of change. Shifts in the status quo only come as a result of personal convictions and a consistent imposition of values. Nobody ever changed things without actually changing the things they do.
dTal 12y ago
> Notice how convenient it is that ISIS showed up and suddenly we need to go to war with them just as Al Qaeda and that war were winding down? Take off the tinfoil hat. It's not "convenient", it's what happens when a superpower withdraws from a region creating a huge power vacuum. What are you suggesting, that ISIS is a shadowy plot by Halliburton and the Illuminati? Quite apart from which, the US does need to sort shit out in Iraq, seeing as the current mess is their fault.
- grecy 12y ago
  > the US does need to sort shit out in Iraq, seeing as the current mess is their fault. How many messes in a row can they create / need to sort out?
  - dTal 12y ago
    I don't think "standard issue dictator likes posturing" and "roving bands of religious crazies armed with Western equipment murdering women and children for sport" are quite the same level of mess.