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Why does hate have negative connotations? If someone did evil to me, and I can't fight back, what do I have besides hate? And the app in question doesn't work.

mvc 12y ago
Forget it and move on with your life?
- serf 12y ago
  so, is that to say that hate can't add to a discussion? It can certainly detract, but I wouldn't be so quick to say that there are no benefits.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  I'll walk knee deep in their spit then. If they can make evil to me and get away with it - why won't they? Hatred is like a spring - it will eventually go off. That's a mechanism of delayed defence.
dsjoerg 12y ago
On the internet, the native currency is attention. You fight back by refusing to pay them the attention they crave.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  This doesn't solve the problem. They go on with doing evil to me.
eCa 12y ago
Because it is negative [1], even if it sometimes might be an appropriate response. [1] http://i.word.com/idictionary/hate http://i.word.com/idictionary/hate
krapp 12y ago
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  What if I'm suffering already?
  - krapp 12y ago
    Then please spare everyone else in the thread from having to suffer you as well.
    - guard-of-terra 12y ago
      Why should I? It's unfair when I suffer and they don't.
      - krapp 12y ago
        Yes. But it's less fair for everyone else to have to deal with your lack of maturity. The world would be a better and more civil place if people would move beyond the frankly medieval concept of justice as retributive parity, and certainly the internet would as well. It's just words in a box. Unless they're threatening you personally, or doxxing you or something, just take a deep breath, recognize when you're dealing with someone who has neither the capacity or willingness to respect you, and move on with life.
        guard-of-terra 12y ago
        I could not move on very far from Microsoft when they were at the height of their power. Surely I could use Linux but the outside world will try constantly to infect me with something MS-proprietary. These days they are dying and I'm so glad.
        krapp 12y ago
pessimizer 12y ago
'Hater' isn't about hate. It comes from 'player-hater', where 'player' is slang for a pimp. Many people disapprove of the lifestyles of pimps, mainly because of their use of women's bodies as an income stream, and the emotional manipulation and physical abuse it takes to keep that up. Pimps characterized this disapproval as a hatred borne from jealousness of a that lifestyle, masking dissatisfaction with one's own square, lame lifestyle, an expression of one's own inner turmoil, cowardice, and weakness. Assholes at all levels of society picked up on this sentiment (through cultural colonialism.) 'Hater' now means anyone who criticizes the speaker for anything.
nailer 12y ago
When people said this genuinely, the (invalid) logic was that either: - people who dislike you care deeply about you (enough to hate you), this proving that everyone cares deeply about you. - people who dislike you dislike everything, so their dislike doesn't matter. Both are obviously ridiculous, and now people mainly use the term ironically.
- guard-of-terra 12y ago
  They don't dislike me, they just make me suffer for profit and/or amusement. When (and if) I'm in position, I'll of course return it to them via manual karma.

mvc 12y ago

Forget it and move on with your life?

serf 12y ago
so, is that to say that hate can't add to a discussion? It can certainly detract, but I wouldn't be so quick to say that there are no benefits.
guard-of-terra 12y ago
I'll walk knee deep in their spit then. If they can make evil to me and get away with it - why won't they? Hatred is like a spring - it will eventually go off. That's a mechanism of delayed defence.

dsjoerg 12y ago

On the internet, the native currency is attention. You fight back by refusing to pay them the attention they crave.

guard-of-terra 12y ago
This doesn't solve the problem. They go on with doing evil to me.

eCa 12y ago

Because it is negative [1], even if it sometimes might be an appropriate response. [1] http://i.word.com/idictionary/hate http://i.word.com/idictionary/hate

krapp 12y ago

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

guard-of-terra 12y ago
What if I'm suffering already?
- krapp 12y ago
  Then please spare everyone else in the thread from having to suffer you as well.
  - guard-of-terra 12y ago
    Why should I? It's unfair when I suffer and they don't.
    - krapp 12y ago
      Yes. But it's less fair for everyone else to have to deal with your lack of maturity. The world would be a better and more civil place if people would move beyond the frankly medieval concept of justice as retributive parity, and certainly the internet would as well. It's just words in a box. Unless they're threatening you personally, or doxxing you or something, just take a deep breath, recognize when you're dealing with someone who has neither the capacity or willingness to respect you, and move on with life.
      - guard-of-terra 12y ago
        I could not move on very far from Microsoft when they were at the height of their power. Surely I could use Linux but the outside world will try constantly to infect me with something MS-proprietary. These days they are dying and I'm so glad.
        krapp 12y ago

pessimizer 12y ago

'Hater' isn't about hate. It comes from 'player-hater', where 'player' is slang for a pimp. Many people disapprove of the lifestyles of pimps, mainly because of their use of women's bodies as an income stream, and the emotional manipulation and physical abuse it takes to keep that up. Pimps characterized this disapproval as a hatred borne from jealousness of a that lifestyle, masking dissatisfaction with one's own square, lame lifestyle, an expression of one's own inner turmoil, cowardice, and weakness. Assholes at all levels of society picked up on this sentiment (through cultural colonialism.) 'Hater' now means anyone who criticizes the speaker for anything.

nailer 12y ago

When people said this genuinely, the (invalid) logic was that either: - people who dislike you care deeply about you (enough to hate you), this proving that everyone cares deeply about you. - people who dislike you dislike everything, so their dislike doesn't matter. Both are obviously ridiculous, and now people mainly use the term ironically.

guard-of-terra 12y ago
They don't dislike me, they just make me suffer for profit and/or amusement. When (and if) I'm in position, I'll of course return it to them via manual karma.