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Unlimited Storage with Office 365 Subscription

51 points by kirinan 12y ago

pratyushag 12y ago
Finally, somebody being smart enough to give unlimited storage. One of the primary reasons gmail took off was unlimited storage, at a time when people were very space conscious and had to keep deleting emails.
- seanieb 12y ago
  Bitcasa already did this, but they revoked the offer last week after offering it for two years, due to abuse: - http://blog.bitcasa.com/2014/10/23/important-we-are-upgrading-storage-infrastructure-and-need-you-to-take-action/ http://blog.bitcasa.com/2014/10/23/important-we-are-upgradin...
- minimaxir 12y ago
  Gmail didn't have unlimited storage at launch; it gave 1GB of storage, which back then felt like unlimited (relative to Yahoo's 50MB limit, anyways). OneDrive had a 1TB limit before this announcement, which isn't as dramatic of a comparison.
  - dudus 12y ago
    But when it was released the marketing message was that the storage on Gmail was "infinity +1" since you get 1GB to start and the storage would grow slowly forever, thus infinity.
unkoman 12y ago
The 20000 item sync limitation is still there though.
- mahyarm 12y ago
  Does that 20000 item limit apply with all types of accounts? I've seen comments about how onedrive business doesn't have a mac client for example?
curiousDog 12y ago
They should remove/increase the file size and count limit first. Technically, that's also probably the bigger challenge.
- tkmcc 12y ago
  OneDrive recently increased its maximum supported file size from 2 GB to 10 GB,[+]. To echo other comments in this thread, it's likely that "Unlimited" storage is a rebranding and publicity move because most paid users were not using anywhere near the 1+ TB they had access to anyways. To me, it seems likely that the file size limit could be lifted for similar purposes soon. [+] https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/ https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/
- richardlblair 12y ago
  As much as it's a pain in the ass, you can always a multipart RAR to get around this. Again, I know, pain in the ass, but it's a work around.
  - freiheit 12y ago
    Then you'll run into the 20,000 item limit faster...
hemancuso 12y ago
Shameless plug for my product, ExpanDrive http://www.expandrive.com/expandrive http://www.expandrive.com/expandrive Mount OneDrive (and OneDrive business, soon) as a network drive in Mac/Windows (soon Linux!). Smart local cache. Access the data on demand without syncing the repo in first. Also supports gdrive, s3, sftp, Dropbox, box and more. Makes an unlimited account make a lot more sense if you only have a 128GB SSD. Use selective sync with the primary client to only sync a portion of your account. Then use ExpanDrive to offload the rest and access it as needed.
- Fastidious 12y ago
  Google Drive broke on the last update. It is very slow.
  - hemancuso 12y ago
    You're the first to report that, ping support@expandrive.com if you haven't already. I've got gdrive mounted on my desktop now!
  - rwmurrayVT 12y ago
    I just updated my Google Drive to the "new" web interface and I've noticed it is absurdly slow in general.
  - Fastidious 12y ago
    There seems to be an issue with the Notification Center too (on menu bar). It disappears randomly while Expandrive is open. Quite buggy, it reminds me why I stopped using it. Shameless plug, sorry!
- jElais 12y ago
  Your product is great! As soon as it works with OneDrive for business I'll be picking up a copy.
- nimbs 12y ago
  > Linux version coming mid-2014
matthewarkin 12y ago
They were already offering 1TB of storage for free, realistically they are probably rebranding 1TB to Unlimited because I highly doubt most of their users were getting near a TB of storage. (It was also 1 TB per user, so 5TB free for a Home account)
- comebackshane 12y ago
  Had this exact same thought. Upload rates being what they are, I doubt many people are uploading that much. This plan could come back to bite them down the line if Google Fiber (or other similarly fast services) ever gets a wide rollout, though.
- freiheit 12y ago
  It's kinda hard to get to 1TB with a 20,000 item limit...
tkmcc 12y ago
In case anyone on the OneDrive team is reading this, the link on "here" in the words "go here to put yourself at the front of the line" links to a URL [+] that seems to have a placeholder tracking id. [+] https://preview.onedrive.com/?wt.mc_id=oo_blog_onedrive_insertblogtitlehere https://preview.onedrive.com/?wt.mc_id=oo_blog_onedrive_inse...
freiheit 12y ago
Have they fixed the other problems with this service? We did a pilot of Office 365 with an eye on using the OneDrive stuff (in addition to migrating to the cloud Exchange service) and found: - There's no mac client for the business one drive. Only windows. - Documents are silently modified by adding a "signature" to them. In some cases this wouldn't matter, but in others it definitely would. - There was a 20,000 item limit. (files or directories) There's ways to get around this by creating additional collections, but that's hard and has its own limitations and issues. - Individual files had a 2GB size limit. - Those combined to mean that the "1TB" space limit was meaningless. Note: "One Drive" and "One Drive for Business" are totally different. The stuff connected to "Office 365" is the business stuff and it's really some friendlier front-ends on some kind of Cloud SharePoint thing...
- ulber 12y ago
  >Note: "One Drive" and "One Drive for Business" are totally different. The stuff connected to "Office 365" is the business stuff and it's really some friendlier front-ends on some kind of Cloud SharePoint thing... From the link: "We’ve started rolling this out today to Office 365 Home, Personal, and University customers." I'm using Office 365 University and it definitely is the normal "One Drive" (just offers more space for it). The branding here seems a bit confused.
  - vidyesh 12y ago
    OneDrive for Business is part of Office 365 which is run on Sharepoint online cloud service by Microsoft. In this OneDrive has two different services, you can use both as a Office 365 user. What you are using is the personal service for OneDrive which is on the onedrive website, the other is the sharepoint online for teams which is used for collaborating files in different projects, teams etc...
- vidyesh 12y ago
  - The Mac Client for OneDrive Pro ( SkyDrive Pro ) seems to be 'In Development'[1] (OneDrive For Business Sync for Mac). But the OneDrive App works for OneDrive for Business too. - OneDrive now supports 10GB files.[2] - I am not certain but from what I know. The 20,000 limit is a suggested limit which isn't imposed. One can upload more than 20,000 files but above 20,000 files there is some sync issue with the present sync tool. [1]https://office.com/roadmap https://office.com/roadmap [2]https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/ https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/
grandalf 12y ago
OneDrive is currently a pale imitation of Google Apps. It's close but there are lots of rough edges and subtle usability bugs. Also, this promotion doesn't work with business accounts.
xnull 12y ago
And an unlimited amount in PRISM. "Beginning March 7 2013, PRISM now collects Microsoft (One)Drive data..." http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Uncompressed.pdf http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPl... (27)
Chevalier 12y ago
I'm currently paying $10/month for GDrive, mostly because of the auto-awesome photo suite that automatically incorporates my full-size GDrive photos and lets me share easily on G+. While I love that perk, it just doesn't compare to backing up my entire family's data for $20/year each... and that's before including the free Office suite for each of us! If anyone at Google is reading this, you can win me back by incorporating photo deduplication. I have well over a terabyte of duplicate photos that I don't dare delete, but could easily be deduplicated down to maybe 100-200GB. I'm sure deduplication already happens server-side, but the consumer is still stuck with endless copies in disorganized folders. Sadly, this is almost certainly checkmate for Dropbox. I imagine they'll be acquired by Amazon, which has yet to offer a decent consumer-facing cloud brand and needs the economies of scale to compete with Microsoft and Google. Even then, I'm not sure how anyone can compete with the price of OneDrive alone... much less when coupled with the best-of-class Office suite.

51 points by kirinan 12y ago

Finally, somebody being smart enough to give unlimited storage. One of the primary reasons gmail took off was unlimited storage, at a time when people were very space conscious and had to keep deleting emails.

seanieb 12y ago
Bitcasa already did this, but they revoked the offer last week after offering it for two years, due to abuse: - http://blog.bitcasa.com/2014/10/23/important-we-are-upgrading-storage-infrastructure-and-need-you-to-take-action/ http://blog.bitcasa.com/2014/10/23/important-we-are-upgradin...
minimaxir 12y ago
Gmail didn't have unlimited storage at launch; it gave 1GB of storage, which back then felt like unlimited (relative to Yahoo's 50MB limit, anyways). OneDrive had a 1TB limit before this announcement, which isn't as dramatic of a comparison.
- dudus 12y ago
  But when it was released the marketing message was that the storage on Gmail was "infinity +1" since you get 1GB to start and the storage would grow slowly forever, thus infinity.

unkoman 12y ago

The 20000 item sync limitation is still there though.

mahyarm 12y ago
Does that 20000 item limit apply with all types of accounts? I've seen comments about how onedrive business doesn't have a mac client for example?

curiousDog 12y ago

They should remove/increase the file size and count limit first. Technically, that's also probably the bigger challenge.

tkmcc 12y ago
OneDrive recently increased its maximum supported file size from 2 GB to 10 GB,[+]. To echo other comments in this thread, it's likely that "Unlimited" storage is a rebranding and publicity move because most paid users were not using anywhere near the 1+ TB they had access to anyways. To me, it seems likely that the file size limit could be lifted for similar purposes soon. [+] https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/ https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/
richardlblair 12y ago
As much as it's a pain in the ass, you can always a multipart RAR to get around this. Again, I know, pain in the ass, but it's a work around.
- freiheit 12y ago
  Then you'll run into the 20,000 item limit faster...

hemancuso 12y ago

Shameless plug for my product, ExpanDrive http://www.expandrive.com/expandrive http://www.expandrive.com/expandrive Mount OneDrive (and OneDrive business, soon) as a network drive in Mac/Windows (soon Linux!). Smart local cache. Access the data on demand without syncing the repo in first. Also supports gdrive, s3, sftp, Dropbox, box and more. Makes an unlimited account make a lot more sense if you only have a 128GB SSD. Use selective sync with the primary client to only sync a portion of your account. Then use ExpanDrive to offload the rest and access it as needed.

Fastidious 12y ago
Google Drive broke on the last update. It is very slow.
- hemancuso 12y ago
  You're the first to report that, ping support@expandrive.com if you haven't already. I've got gdrive mounted on my desktop now!
- rwmurrayVT 12y ago
  I just updated my Google Drive to the "new" web interface and I've noticed it is absurdly slow in general.
- Fastidious 12y ago
  There seems to be an issue with the Notification Center too (on menu bar). It disappears randomly while Expandrive is open. Quite buggy, it reminds me why I stopped using it. Shameless plug, sorry!
jElais 12y ago
Your product is great! As soon as it works with OneDrive for business I'll be picking up a copy.
nimbs 12y ago
> Linux version coming mid-2014

matthewarkin 12y ago

They were already offering 1TB of storage for free, realistically they are probably rebranding 1TB to Unlimited because I highly doubt most of their users were getting near a TB of storage. (It was also 1 TB per user, so 5TB free for a Home account)

comebackshane 12y ago
Had this exact same thought. Upload rates being what they are, I doubt many people are uploading that much. This plan could come back to bite them down the line if Google Fiber (or other similarly fast services) ever gets a wide rollout, though.
freiheit 12y ago
It's kinda hard to get to 1TB with a 20,000 item limit...

tkmcc 12y ago

In case anyone on the OneDrive team is reading this, the link on "here" in the words "go here to put yourself at the front of the line" links to a URL [+] that seems to have a placeholder tracking id. [+] https://preview.onedrive.com/?wt.mc_id=oo_blog_onedrive_insertblogtitlehere https://preview.onedrive.com/?wt.mc_id=oo_blog_onedrive_inse...

freiheit 12y ago

Have they fixed the other problems with this service? We did a pilot of Office 365 with an eye on using the OneDrive stuff (in addition to migrating to the cloud Exchange service) and found: - There's no mac client for the business one drive. Only windows. - Documents are silently modified by adding a "signature" to them. In some cases this wouldn't matter, but in others it definitely would. - There was a 20,000 item limit. (files or directories) There's ways to get around this by creating additional collections, but that's hard and has its own limitations and issues. - Individual files had a 2GB size limit. - Those combined to mean that the "1TB" space limit was meaningless. Note: "One Drive" and "One Drive for Business" are totally different. The stuff connected to "Office 365" is the business stuff and it's really some friendlier front-ends on some kind of Cloud SharePoint thing...

ulber 12y ago
>Note: "One Drive" and "One Drive for Business" are totally different. The stuff connected to "Office 365" is the business stuff and it's really some friendlier front-ends on some kind of Cloud SharePoint thing... From the link: "We’ve started rolling this out today to Office 365 Home, Personal, and University customers." I'm using Office 365 University and it definitely is the normal "One Drive" (just offers more space for it). The branding here seems a bit confused.
- vidyesh 12y ago
  OneDrive for Business is part of Office 365 which is run on Sharepoint online cloud service by Microsoft. In this OneDrive has two different services, you can use both as a Office 365 user. What you are using is the personal service for OneDrive which is on the onedrive website, the other is the sharepoint online for teams which is used for collaborating files in different projects, teams etc...
vidyesh 12y ago
- The Mac Client for OneDrive Pro ( SkyDrive Pro ) seems to be 'In Development'[1] (OneDrive For Business Sync for Mac). But the OneDrive App works for OneDrive for Business too. - OneDrive now supports 10GB files.[2] - I am not certain but from what I know. The 20,000 limit is a suggested limit which isn't imposed. One can upload more than 20,000 files but above 20,000 files there is some sync issue with the present sync tool. [1]https://office.com/roadmap https://office.com/roadmap [2]https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/ https://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-now-supports-10-gb-files/

grandalf 12y ago

OneDrive is currently a pale imitation of Google Apps. It's close but there are lots of rough edges and subtle usability bugs. Also, this promotion doesn't work with business accounts.

xnull 12y ago

And an unlimited amount in PRISM. "Beginning March 7 2013, PRISM now collects Microsoft (One)Drive data..." http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPlaceToHide-Documents-Uncompressed.pdf http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/holt/greenwald/NoPl... (27)

Chevalier 12y ago

I'm currently paying $10/month for GDrive, mostly because of the auto-awesome photo suite that automatically incorporates my full-size GDrive photos and lets me share easily on G+. While I love that perk, it just doesn't compare to backing up my entire family's data for $20/year each... and that's before including the free Office suite for each of us! If anyone at Google is reading this, you can win me back by incorporating photo deduplication. I have well over a terabyte of duplicate photos that I don't dare delete, but could easily be deduplicated down to maybe 100-200GB. I'm sure deduplication already happens server-side, but the consumer is still stuck with endless copies in disorganized folders. Sadly, this is almost certainly checkmate for Dropbox. I imagine they'll be acquired by Amazon, which has yet to offer a decent consumer-facing cloud brand and needs the economies of scale to compete with Microsoft and Google. Even then, I'm not sure how anyone can compete with the price of OneDrive alone... much less when coupled with the best-of-class Office suite.