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In my opinion, it might be related to Qt being a huge framework and ecosystem where GTK is "just" a GUI toolkit. I don't know if things have changed recently b

by exDM69 12y ago

In my opinion, it might be related to Qt being a huge framework and ecosystem where GTK is "just" a GUI toolkit. I don't know if things have changed recently but at Qt at least used to require custom C++ extensions. This requires you to use custom toolchains or the recommended way of using the Qt Creator IDE. This isn't necessarily bad (I've only quickly tried it out, I don't really know) but it certainly makes me look at other alternatives first. This isn't perhaps a big problem if you use other languages than C++ and there are decent wrappers available. But having to use a custom compiler/preprocessor just to get a GUI up isn't what I really want. Qt is a pretty intrusive framework and ecosystem, where you have QStrings and QSockets and QEverything. GTK is perhaps a bit more lean and mean library than a full ecosystem. I've also noticed that Qt applications do not work very well over remote X connection over slow networks. Apps built with other GUI toolkits work much more fluently. (I understand that this is not very common these days but I still do work on remote X on a daily basis). I am sure that the Qt frameworks solve practical problems in cross platform development, but I'd rather not get involved in a whole ecosystem when all I need is a GUI toolkit.

dded 12y ago
> (I understand that this is not very common these days but I still do work on remote X on a daily basis) It's probably more common than you think. We also use it.
scarygliders 12y ago
As another poster replied, remote desktop users are a lot more common than you might realise :) I haven't found this problem with Qt and remote connections. Then again I usually use Xrdp with the X11rdp back-end. If you haven't already done so, perhaps you should try it, it works beautifully, and if you run a Debian-based distro, I've even written a utility which compiles X11rdp/xrdp and packages it for your convenience ;)
nknighthb 12y ago
"Custom toolchains" is massively overstating things. The only mandatory thing is the MOC, which is just a preprocessor that spits out some more C++ code for your regular compiler to build, and it's easily integrated with ordinary Makefiles (or whatever other half-sane build process you want). qmake is optional. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/moc.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/moc.html http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3632038/can-i-use-qt-without-qmake-or-qt-creator http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3632038/can-i-use-qt-with... (And I don't know what to make of your comment about remote X. Years ago I sometimes ran entire remote KDE sessions in Xnest and didn't really have any problems, so this would seem like either something new, or a problem with your environment.)
mkesper 12y ago
Some people seem to profit of that, namely LXDE: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1013 http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1013

by exDM69 12y ago

dded 12y ago

> (I understand that this is not very common these days but I still do work on remote X on a daily basis) It's probably more common than you think. We also use it.

scarygliders 12y ago

As another poster replied, remote desktop users are a lot more common than you might realise :) I haven't found this problem with Qt and remote connections. Then again I usually use Xrdp with the X11rdp back-end. If you haven't already done so, perhaps you should try it, it works beautifully, and if you run a Debian-based distro, I've even written a utility which compiles X11rdp/xrdp and packages it for your convenience ;)

nknighthb 12y ago

"Custom toolchains" is massively overstating things. The only mandatory thing is the MOC, which is just a preprocessor that spits out some more C++ code for your regular compiler to build, and it's easily integrated with ordinary Makefiles (or whatever other half-sane build process you want). qmake is optional. http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/moc.html http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/moc.html http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3632038/can-i-use-qt-without-qmake-or-qt-creator http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3632038/can-i-use-qt-with... (And I don't know what to make of your comment about remote X. Years ago I sometimes ran entire remote KDE sessions in Xnest and didn't really have any problems, so this would seem like either something new, or a problem with your environment.)

mkesper 12y ago

Some people seem to profit of that, namely LXDE: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1013 http://blog.lxde.org/?p=1013