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> There's something almost, dare I say it, Communist Party in my opinion, of how they do things. It puts me off. Well, don't say it then. Putting GTK's first w

> There's something almost, dare I say it, Communist Party in my opinion, of how they do things. It puts me off. Well, don't say it then. Putting GTK's first world problems on the same level as North Korea's atrocious regime is a poor way to qualify the Gnome developers. That said, I share your opinions on the situation and love QT which feels much slicker to the end user and easier to code. And some of the Gnome dev attitude sucks, that's a given.

scarygliders 12y ago
> Well, don't say it then. Putting GTK's first world problems on the same level as North Korea's atrocious regime is a poor way to qualify the Gnome developers. I said it because it was the best way with the least amount of verbiage I could use to describe how their top-down, dictatorship-like, inability or unwillingness to listen, it's our way or nothing, you're insane if you think this is a good idea, feels to me. I wasn't for one second trying to trivialise North Korea's problems - in fact I was thinking more about the Soviet-era - and I find it odd that you connected the two, and found the time to pick out that one sentence and make an issue out of it :)
- johnchristopher 12y ago
  > I wasn't for one second trying to trivialise North Korea's problems - in fact I was thinking more about the Soviet-era - and I find it odd that you connected the two, and found the time to pick out that one sentence and make an issue out of it :) Ha, that's interesting because I actually first picked up USSR but since the soviet era is over I chose to go with NK for dramatic effect. Recently the elections gave us a full liberal right political landscape in my home country and everyone is bashing the previous leftist and green parties with derogatory terms such as stalinism, gulag, dictators, etc. so the lexical field has been making me go on my high horses for the last few weeks because frankly it's not comparable. I'd rather label thing as they are when comparisons are too far fetched.
  - scarygliders 12y ago
    > Ha, that's interesting because I actually first picked up USSR but since the soviet era is over I chose to go with NK for dramatic effect. You mean... you went for hyperbole? ;) teehee!
    - johnchristopher 12y ago
      Let's just say I went with the flow :].
pionar 12y ago
> Putting GTK's first world problems on the same level as North Korea's atrocious regime is a poor way to qualify the Gnome developers. Woah, slow down there. The way I read it is just saying that all decisions are made by a central cabal and handed down without listening to the people. North Korea's not the only communists out there, y'know. :)
- johnchristopher 12y ago
  Yep, it's a case of my disliking of hyperbole. Central cabal has a certain ring to it :).
pessimizer 12y ago
Juche isn't communism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche
- johnchristopher 12y ago
  Thank you, interesting read. I realize now that what I know of the NK political system is really naive. > In 1972, Juche replaced Marxism–Leninism in the revised North Korean constitution as the official state ideology, this being a response to the Sino-Soviet split. Juche was nonetheless defined as a creative application of Marxism-Leninism. Kim Il-sung also explained that Juche was not original to North Korea and that in formulating it he only laid stress on a programmatic orientation that is inherent to all Marxist-Leninist states. > Former North Korean leader Kim Jong-il officially authored the definitive statement on Juche in a 1982 document titled On the Juche Idea. After the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, North Korea’s greatest economic benefactor, all reference to Marxism-Leninism was dropped in the revised 1998 constitution. Kim Jong-Il incorporated the Songun (army-first) policy into Juche in 1996.

scarygliders 12y ago

> Well, don't say it then. Putting GTK's first world problems on the same level as North Korea's atrocious regime is a poor way to qualify the Gnome developers. I said it because it was the best way with the least amount of verbiage I could use to describe how their top-down, dictatorship-like, inability or unwillingness to listen, it's our way or nothing, you're insane if you think this is a good idea, feels to me. I wasn't for one second trying to trivialise North Korea's problems - in fact I was thinking more about the Soviet-era - and I find it odd that you connected the two, and found the time to pick out that one sentence and make an issue out of it :)

johnchristopher 12y ago
> I wasn't for one second trying to trivialise North Korea's problems - in fact I was thinking more about the Soviet-era - and I find it odd that you connected the two, and found the time to pick out that one sentence and make an issue out of it :) Ha, that's interesting because I actually first picked up USSR but since the soviet era is over I chose to go with NK for dramatic effect. Recently the elections gave us a full liberal right political landscape in my home country and everyone is bashing the previous leftist and green parties with derogatory terms such as stalinism, gulag, dictators, etc. so the lexical field has been making me go on my high horses for the last few weeks because frankly it's not comparable. I'd rather label thing as they are when comparisons are too far fetched.
- scarygliders 12y ago
  > Ha, that's interesting because I actually first picked up USSR but since the soviet era is over I chose to go with NK for dramatic effect. You mean... you went for hyperbole? ;) teehee!
  - johnchristopher 12y ago
    Let's just say I went with the flow :].

pionar 12y ago

> Putting GTK's first world problems on the same level as North Korea's atrocious regime is a poor way to qualify the Gnome developers. Woah, slow down there. The way I read it is just saying that all decisions are made by a central cabal and handed down without listening to the people. North Korea's not the only communists out there, y'know. :)

johnchristopher 12y ago
Yep, it's a case of my disliking of hyperbole. Central cabal has a certain ring to it :).

pessimizer 12y ago

Juche isn't communism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche

johnchristopher 12y ago
Thank you, interesting read. I realize now that what I know of the NK political system is really naive. > In 1972, Juche replaced Marxism–Leninism in the revised North Korean constitution as the official state ideology, this being a response to the Sino-Soviet split. Juche was nonetheless defined as a creative application of Marxism-Leninism. Kim Il-sung also explained that Juche was not original to North Korea and that in formulating it he only laid stress on a programmatic orientation that is inherent to all Marxist-Leninist states. > Former North Korean leader Kim Jong-il officially authored the definitive statement on Juche in a 1982 document titled On the Juche Idea. After the 1991 collapse of the Soviet Union, North Korea’s greatest economic benefactor, all reference to Marxism-Leninism was dropped in the revised 1998 constitution. Kim Jong-Il incorporated the Songun (army-first) policy into Juche in 1996.