> These apps are curtain-level privacy, mostly meant to keep you private from your social circle. Expecting any more without it being a pain in the ass would be

> These apps are curtain-level privacy, mostly meant to keep you private from your social circle. Expecting any more without it being a pain in the ass would be a UX revolution. True. I guess somehow saying "If you want real security, use PGP and only talk to people you know and trust" just isn't as good for their bottom line, or as fun/useful for their users. I would still consider it worthwhile for us to point this stuff out, so that people who care about it can inform themselves from somewhere other than a CEO whose company depends on making money off of them.