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Given your reputation and experience, don't you think is it possible that you never saw one because people would know better than to include you in the types of

• tptacek 12y ago
  No.
  • justcommenting 12y ago
    The difference between "big tech companies spy on their users for the USG" and "big tech companies spy on their users....and then the USG obtains those data through any number of means, legal and otherwise" may not be so sharp and bright outside a comment about the technical details of key escrow (which you're right about, just to be clear). Being clear on what the technical details of key escrow systems actually are is valuable, but may miss the crux of Snowden's arguments in this conversation with Lessig. Whether the Lavabit case should be construed as a law enforcement request for a mechanism that achieves many of the same goals as key escrow or should be construed as key disclosure points to the same sort of issue. CALEA is one of many tools to be used and perhaps misused... mass surveillance conducted by eavesdroppers with a legal backing is just as morally wrong as mass surveillance conducted by eavesdroppers without one. Sometimes the scandal is what's legal, and sometimes the scandal is what can obtained without building key escrow systems directly into big tech companies' systems.
  • danford 12y ago
    Welp tptacek has never seen anything like this so it must be made up! Obviously tptacek is smarter than the entire NSA. You heard it on HN folks! Nothing to worry about.
  • malandrew 12y ago
    No, these people wouldn't know better or no, it's not possible?