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And much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her to be a stronger large force against the murderers.

by judk 12y ago

wyager 12y ago
> much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her How do you figure?
AnthonyMouse 12y ago
> And much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her to be a stronger large force against the murderers. Someone who can prevent their own misfortune by taking known steps yet doesn't take them is exhibiting behavior deserving of criticism. Finding someone else to blame doesn't change that, so what point are you trying to make by finding even more people to blame?
- mjfl 12y ago
  >Someone who can prevent their own misfortune by taking known steps yet doesn't take them is exhibiting behavior deserving of criticism. It is infuriating to me that you would suggest that it is this woman's fault for being murdered. So she's supposed to have a working knowledge of crypto despite being a working woman (in a non-computer related field) in a 2nd world country OR just shut up about rampant murder and kidnapping in her country? I have no idea what to say to you, or how to express my horror that mind-blind opinions like these are stated on the regular on this news site.
  - AnthonyMouse 12y ago
    Do you understand the consequences of your argument? Every time something like this happens, someone posts a comment to the effect of "should have used Tor" and then someone else posts a comment criticizing that comment as victim blaming. Now suppose we listen to the latter group and everyone stops making the first comment. The idea that victims can protect themselves, and the mentioning of specific methods by which they can do so, disappears from the discourse. Anyone reading this article because they're in a similar situation to the subject never discovers that information. In what kind of world is that a good thing?
  - hueving 12y ago
    There is no such thing as a 2nd world country.
    - AnthonyMouse 12y ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
      - hueving 12y ago
        I should have specified, "Second World" has nothing to do with economic power and Mexico is definitely not a "Second World" country.
  - wyager 12y ago
    >It is infuriating to me that you would suggest that it is this woman's fault for being murdered. You are putting words in his mouth. He simply said that there are things she could have feasibly done differently that would have prevented her death. He is not saying it's "her fault".
  - phazmatis 12y ago
    I'm glad the tone police are here to make irrelevant arguments about valid points.

And much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her to be a stronger large force against the murderers.

by judk 12y ago

And much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her to be a stronger large force against the murderers.

wyager 12y ago

> much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her How do you figure?

AnthonyMouse 12y ago

> And much of the blame lies with you and I for not shouldering some of the risk and uniting with her to be a stronger large force against the murderers. Someone who can prevent their own misfortune by taking known steps yet doesn't take them is exhibiting behavior deserving of criticism. Finding someone else to blame doesn't change that, so what point are you trying to make by finding even more people to blame?

mjfl 12y ago
>Someone who can prevent their own misfortune by taking known steps yet doesn't take them is exhibiting behavior deserving of criticism. It is infuriating to me that you would suggest that it is this woman's fault for being murdered. So she's supposed to have a working knowledge of crypto despite being a working woman (in a non-computer related field) in a 2nd world country OR just shut up about rampant murder and kidnapping in her country? I have no idea what to say to you, or how to express my horror that mind-blind opinions like these are stated on the regular on this news site.
- AnthonyMouse 12y ago
  Do you understand the consequences of your argument? Every time something like this happens, someone posts a comment to the effect of "should have used Tor" and then someone else posts a comment criticizing that comment as victim blaming. Now suppose we listen to the latter group and everyone stops making the first comment. The idea that victims can protect themselves, and the mentioning of specific methods by which they can do so, disappears from the discourse. Anyone reading this article because they're in a similar situation to the subject never discovers that information. In what kind of world is that a good thing?
- hueving 12y ago
  There is no such thing as a 2nd world country.
  - AnthonyMouse 12y ago
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_World
    - hueving 12y ago
      I should have specified, "Second World" has nothing to do with economic power and Mexico is definitely not a "Second World" country.
- wyager 12y ago
  >It is infuriating to me that you would suggest that it is this woman's fault for being murdered. You are putting words in his mouth. He simply said that there are things she could have feasibly done differently that would have prevented her death. He is not saying it's "her fault".
- phazmatis 12y ago
  I'm glad the tone police are here to make irrelevant arguments about valid points.