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It can also be used in situations where you would incriminate yourself by telling the truth. Mr. Gates uses it in reply to the question: > What did you mean wh

by runeks 12y ago

It can also be used in situations where you would incriminate yourself by telling the truth. Mr. Gates uses it in reply to the question: > What did you mean when you asked Mr. Maritz whether or not, "We have a clear plan on what we want Apple to do to undermine Sun"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhdDZk45HDI#t=2113 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhdDZk45HDI#t=2113

pdabbadabba 12y ago
Yes, if you don't mind committing perjury. The Fifth Amendment doesn't help you here (for those of you who think it might). You can only use that to avoid incriminating yourself criminally and, then, it does not simply permit you to give whatever answer you want. When you invoke the Fifth you have to refuse to answer the question, you can't just lie.
- CamperBob2 12y ago
  What does perjury have to do with claiming that you don't remember something?
  - wfjackson 12y ago
    If later it can be proven that you did really remember it and that you lied for convenience, you can be held liable for perjury.
    - CamperBob2 12y ago
      Such proof requiring a functional MRI with integrated time-displacement capabilities?
      - pdabbadabba 12y ago
        That, or other extrinsic evidence. The easiest would be inconsistent deposition testimony (some lawyers are good at making you say what they want -- don't underestimate them), but another option would be evidence of your having done something to manifest your knowledge of the thing you claim to have forgotten soon before or after the deposition (like, e.g., sending an email). And while perjury may be a stretch in most cases, there is also the matter of the jury's opinion of you as a witness (assuming that the case eventually goes to trial and you get confronted with your own deposition transcripts). If they think your memory seems a tad selective, then they're apt to assume that any fact you've "forgotten" is the worst possible fact for you. There are also concerns like civil/criminal contempt and other sanctions against your side in the litigation. There is also the small matter of morality. Many of us think that you shouldn't lie in a deposition even if you can get away with it.
  - pdabbadabba 12y ago
    Perjury is knowingly giving a false statement under oath (e.g., in a deposition). If you are asked a question in a deposition and say you don't remember the answer when you actually do, you are giving a false statement under oath.
wise_young_man 12y ago
It can't just be "used". You're under oath during a deposition. Lying under oath is perjury.

by runeks 12y ago

pdabbadabba 12y ago

Yes, if you don't mind committing perjury. The Fifth Amendment doesn't help you here (for those of you who think it might). You can only use that to avoid incriminating yourself criminally and, then, it does not simply permit you to give whatever answer you want. When you invoke the Fifth you have to refuse to answer the question, you can't just lie.

CamperBob2 12y ago
What does perjury have to do with claiming that you don't remember something?
- wfjackson 12y ago
  If later it can be proven that you did really remember it and that you lied for convenience, you can be held liable for perjury.
  - CamperBob2 12y ago
    Such proof requiring a functional MRI with integrated time-displacement capabilities?
    - pdabbadabba 12y ago
      That, or other extrinsic evidence. The easiest would be inconsistent deposition testimony (some lawyers are good at making you say what they want -- don't underestimate them), but another option would be evidence of your having done something to manifest your knowledge of the thing you claim to have forgotten soon before or after the deposition (like, e.g., sending an email). And while perjury may be a stretch in most cases, there is also the matter of the jury's opinion of you as a witness (assuming that the case eventually goes to trial and you get confronted with your own deposition transcripts). If they think your memory seems a tad selective, then they're apt to assume that any fact you've "forgotten" is the worst possible fact for you. There are also concerns like civil/criminal contempt and other sanctions against your side in the litigation. There is also the small matter of morality. Many of us think that you shouldn't lie in a deposition even if you can get away with it.
- pdabbadabba 12y ago
  Perjury is knowingly giving a false statement under oath (e.g., in a deposition). If you are asked a question in a deposition and say you don't remember the answer when you actually do, you are giving a false statement under oath.

wise_young_man 12y ago

It can't just be "used". You're under oath during a deposition. Lying under oath is perjury.