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Sam Altman responding. https://twitter.com/sama/status/526448975797186560 https://twitter.com/sama/status/526448975797186560

jodrellblank 12y ago
Oh well, as long as Jason can use his personal influence to harm the attacker's life in return. Who needs a justice system or the police, anyway? (And why is it Sam Altman's place to apologise to Jason Calacanis? What is he apologising for - did YC suggest, approve or have anything to do with this act at all?)
- sama 12y ago
  We expect ethical behavior from our community, and this fell well short of that standard. Obviously we didn't suggest or approve it, but we are still sorry it happened.
  - hadoukenio 12y ago
    If YCombinator don't kick these guys out, it's going to demonstrate that these all apologies are disingenuous and exist only for PR, and that that in the future the line to cross does is only imaginary.
    - kumarski 12y ago
      YC founder ethics policy here: http://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/ http://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/ As well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UacbJ72dluU&feature=channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UacbJ72dluU&feature=channel
      - hadoukenio 12y ago
        From the policy: Some examples of ethical behavior we expect from founders are: * Not using misleading, illegal or dishonest sales tactics. * Not harassing any YC community member, employees, or anyone else. * Not behaving in a way that damages the reputation of his/her company or of YC. * Generally behaving in an upstanding way. Looking at Avi's background: "Like at age 16 when my co-founder and I wrote one of the first Facebook scripts to mass-invite people on Facebook to events we threw. Or how while at YCombinator I hacked prototype day (To PG’s disapproval)" I think YCombinator is starting to have issues with their filtering process.
        raldi 12y ago
        Also this: > At first, I decided to just solicit them our deck and pitch but then I realized something: Tim Ferriss and Jason Calacanis almost definitely knew each other. So I spoof called Calacanis from Tim Ferris’ number. I know PG looks upon a certain amount of "naughtiness"[1] as a potentially positive indicator, but it should be clear to anyone with an inkling of common sense that this is way over the line. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/founders.html http://www.paulgraham.com/founders.html
    - raldi 12y ago
      ...or perhaps the truth is somewhere in between those two extremes.
    - nashequilibrium 12y ago
      This is what i call pound of flesh social media, they want to see you hurt, loose your job, loose something. You just a guy behind a computer, relax!
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
  One of the marketing points of a place like YC is it's supposed to be not just a "throw the money up to the second floor window" kind of place.
nraynaud 12y ago
I guess he'll get the Groupon CEO treatment. Oh, wait, he hadn't already raised millions and wasn't yet part of the untouchables? hum, I feel for him.

jodrellblank 12y ago

Oh well, as long as Jason can use his personal influence to harm the attacker's life in return. Who needs a justice system or the police, anyway? (And why is it Sam Altman's place to apologise to Jason Calacanis? What is he apologising for - did YC suggest, approve or have anything to do with this act at all?)

sama 12y ago
We expect ethical behavior from our community, and this fell well short of that standard. Obviously we didn't suggest or approve it, but we are still sorry it happened.
- hadoukenio 12y ago
  If YCombinator don't kick these guys out, it's going to demonstrate that these all apologies are disingenuous and exist only for PR, and that that in the future the line to cross does is only imaginary.
  - kumarski 12y ago
    YC founder ethics policy here: http://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/ http://www.ycombinator.com/ethics/ As well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UacbJ72dluU&feature=channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UacbJ72dluU&feature=channel
    - hadoukenio 12y ago
      From the policy: Some examples of ethical behavior we expect from founders are: * Not using misleading, illegal or dishonest sales tactics. * Not harassing any YC community member, employees, or anyone else. * Not behaving in a way that damages the reputation of his/her company or of YC. * Generally behaving in an upstanding way. Looking at Avi's background: "Like at age 16 when my co-founder and I wrote one of the first Facebook scripts to mass-invite people on Facebook to events we threw. Or how while at YCombinator I hacked prototype day (To PG’s disapproval)" I think YCombinator is starting to have issues with their filtering process.
      - raldi 12y ago
        Also this: > At first, I decided to just solicit them our deck and pitch but then I realized something: Tim Ferriss and Jason Calacanis almost definitely knew each other. So I spoof called Calacanis from Tim Ferris’ number. I know PG looks upon a certain amount of "naughtiness"[1] as a potentially positive indicator, but it should be clear to anyone with an inkling of common sense that this is way over the line. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/founders.html http://www.paulgraham.com/founders.html
  - raldi 12y ago
    ...or perhaps the truth is somewhere in between those two extremes.
  - nashequilibrium 12y ago
    This is what i call pound of flesh social media, they want to see you hurt, loose your job, loose something. You just a guy behind a computer, relax!
GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
One of the marketing points of a place like YC is it's supposed to be not just a "throw the money up to the second floor window" kind of place.

nraynaud 12y ago

I guess he'll get the Groupon CEO treatment. Oh, wait, he hadn't already raised millions and wasn't yet part of the untouchables? hum, I feel for him.