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Right, well I agree with you almost entirely. My only hesitation is that you and I have to recognize that we are on the fringes of the fringe, and be hyper-vig

by quesera 12y ago

Right, well I agree with you almost entirely. My only hesitation is that you and I have to recognize that we are on the fringes of the fringe, and be hyper-vigilant. This behaviour is only surprising if you get lax (as I was, too) about evolving functionality. My point about vim is that for me, it's a purposeful simplification. I do sometimes wish for a more flexible note taking app, but I know that it would take an earthquake of change for vim to sprout a file sync feature that tied into iCloud. And I value that, a lot.

sneak 12y ago
This is OS functionality, so it would be akin to iCloud helpfully synchronizing your vim recovery files across your Macs (via a roundtrip to iCloud) without you ever asking it to - not a change in vim. This is why this is worth sounding the alarm over - it's an OS-level change that affects all apps, not just Apple's.
- quesera 12y ago
  That's a good point, and is part of the reason I have iCloud turned off completely -- so I don't have to think about individual cases. Obviously, it's completely possible that mdsworker or any of the other dozens of Apple daemons is slowly leaking my unencrypted RAM or swap files out to 17.x.x.x or somewhere else I've allowed in my packet filter configuration. But that is the line between enhancement for the majority and malice for the targeted. As long as I force Apple to cross that line before causing me any damage, I feel comfortable trusting them (their corporate policy, their auditing, their hiring, their systems administration, etc).
jellicle 12y ago
> I know that it would take an earthquake of change for vim to sprout a file sync feature Well, you may know that, but don't worry, when it happens and surprises you and you post about it, there will definitely be someone here on Hacker News to scold you that you should have known better and that it's all your fault for not anticipating the unexpected and unannounced changes.

by quesera 12y ago

sneak 12y ago

This is OS functionality, so it would be akin to iCloud helpfully synchronizing your vim recovery files across your Macs (via a roundtrip to iCloud) without you ever asking it to - not a change in vim. This is why this is worth sounding the alarm over - it's an OS-level change that affects all apps, not just Apple's.

quesera 12y ago
That's a good point, and is part of the reason I have iCloud turned off completely -- so I don't have to think about individual cases. Obviously, it's completely possible that mdsworker or any of the other dozens of Apple daemons is slowly leaking my unencrypted RAM or swap files out to 17.x.x.x or somewhere else I've allowed in my packet filter configuration. But that is the line between enhancement for the majority and malice for the targeted. As long as I force Apple to cross that line before causing me any damage, I feel comfortable trusting them (their corporate policy, their auditing, their hiring, their systems administration, etc).

jellicle 12y ago

> I know that it would take an earthquake of change for vim to sprout a file sync feature Well, you may know that, but don't worry, when it happens and surprises you and you post about it, there will definitely be someone here on Hacker News to scold you that you should have known better and that it's all your fault for not anticipating the unexpected and unannounced changes.