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I did not downvote - but if I had it wouldn't have been about freedom, it would have been about prices and corruption. How much overhead do all those pointless

by nmcfarl 12y ago

I did not downvote - but if I had it wouldn't have been about freedom, it would have been about prices and corruption. How much overhead do all those pointless, and expensive dealer employees add to the cost of my car? And in particular how much do the Dealers themselves add - these are very rich men, and all so because the state has decided to force me to pay for their existence. And how much of that money goes back to the Capitol to line politicians pockets?

Mithaldu 12y ago
Leading questions and implications, but no answers. You bring up costs without even doing a rough attempt at quantifying them and seem to ignore that dealers provide value too by making it unnecessary for producers to maintain a sales location, sales personnel, local marketing and shield producers from having to deal with some maintenance actions. As i said, an earnest explanation is warranted.
- lucio 12y ago
  If dealers provide "value", why a law is required to "protect" them? "It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
- nmcfarl 12y ago
  My goal was not to quantify anything - nor provide you with any answers except to the question about why would someone downvote a comment that asks "What so bad about distributing Tesla vehicles through a dealership franchise?" To some people - like myself who have had universally horrific and expensive experiences with dealerships (and in my case the much better, cheaper, and competent experiences with non-dealer mechanics, and used car salesmen of all people.) dealers are bad and their existence should not be propagated. They are bad enough that I could easily downvote the question on that alone (without the political angle which lucio summed up nicely) if I was fast with the downvote button. Explaining that and that alone was my goal - and one it looks like I failed at.
  - Mithaldu 12y ago
    For context: You probably failed because i've never dealt with car dealers. I live in germany and for the past 32 years have never even had a car in mine or my direct relatives' possession. I don't even have a license.

by nmcfarl 12y ago

Mithaldu 12y ago

Leading questions and implications, but no answers. You bring up costs without even doing a rough attempt at quantifying them and seem to ignore that dealers provide value too by making it unnecessary for producers to maintain a sales location, sales personnel, local marketing and shield producers from having to deal with some maintenance actions. As i said, an earnest explanation is warranted.

lucio 12y ago
If dealers provide "value", why a law is required to "protect" them? "It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
nmcfarl 12y ago
My goal was not to quantify anything - nor provide you with any answers except to the question about why would someone downvote a comment that asks "What so bad about distributing Tesla vehicles through a dealership franchise?" To some people - like myself who have had universally horrific and expensive experiences with dealerships (and in my case the much better, cheaper, and competent experiences with non-dealer mechanics, and used car salesmen of all people.) dealers are bad and their existence should not be propagated. They are bad enough that I could easily downvote the question on that alone (without the political angle which lucio summed up nicely) if I was fast with the downvote button. Explaining that and that alone was my goal - and one it looks like I failed at.
- Mithaldu 12y ago
  For context: You probably failed because i've never dealt with car dealers. I live in germany and for the past 32 years have never even had a car in mine or my direct relatives' possession. I don't even have a license.