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You make a very good contrarian view and I agree. I'm just realizing that we may not be innovating as we think we'd like. Basically, we found a way to force th

You make a very good contrarian view and I agree. I'm just realizing that we may not be innovating as we think we'd like. Basically, we found a way to force the browser to act like native desktop apps but without the security and power of native apps. In the process, generating a great amount of technical barrier and debt. Businesses will still use a java swing desktop app if they paid millions for it in the 90s. We'll still work on desktop IDE's to code our stuff. Another discussion here would be how "mobile" is going to replace desktop apps. This is simply not true. Lot of important work goes on with a mouse and keyboard behind a monitor. I just don't buy reinventing the wheel. Sure it works for activities centered around the mobile phone mainly communication applications and social apps but i don't see how it can cause disruption. I have a feeling one of these days, we'll see a major correction in how we perceive our point in time as being the best possible state and we'll see more or less the return of old ideas, the true and tested technologies get more attention they truly deserve.

uptownJimmy 12y ago
Good point, valid opinion, etc. But incorrect, I think. I think it's more likely that we are going to see most metropolitan areas in the US finally get world-class data/communications infrastructure installed. It's starting to build momentum now, really. And then there will be no going back. You will then be unable to convince the vast majority of enterprise users that they should pay for proprietary Java + server installations when they can get radically better functionality and useability from client-side technology, and at a VERY steep discount. I really think the only thing currently preventing a tidal wave of JavaScript dominance in enterprise is the (weird) reality that the US is still so retrograde on high-speed internet.
- notastartup 12y ago
  I don't think it has anything to do with the speed of the internet, rather you won't see large companies who paid millions for infrastructure built on Oracle or SAP come off it anytime soon. The people that spend this much on money won't be sold on the wonders of Javascript, that's not how they make their purchase decisions.

uptownJimmy 12y ago

Good point, valid opinion, etc. But incorrect, I think. I think it's more likely that we are going to see most metropolitan areas in the US finally get world-class data/communications infrastructure installed. It's starting to build momentum now, really. And then there will be no going back. You will then be unable to convince the vast majority of enterprise users that they should pay for proprietary Java + server installations when they can get radically better functionality and useability from client-side technology, and at a VERY steep discount. I really think the only thing currently preventing a tidal wave of JavaScript dominance in enterprise is the (weird) reality that the US is still so retrograde on high-speed internet.

notastartup 12y ago
I don't think it has anything to do with the speed of the internet, rather you won't see large companies who paid millions for infrastructure built on Oracle or SAP come off it anytime soon. The people that spend this much on money won't be sold on the wonders of Javascript, that's not how they make their purchase decisions.