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> Having huge stockpile of artillery and armoured vehicles it is very difficult enemy to have. The media went on and on about Iraq having "the 4th largest army

> Having huge stockpile of artillery and armoured vehicles it is very difficult enemy to have. The media went on and on about Iraq having "the 4th largest army in the world" during the first Gulf War. In the end, this amounted to a lot of people in uniform dying when the bombs collapsed their shelters or blowing up in their Soviet-era tanks. Having land-based vehicles doesn't amount for much nowadays if you don't have air superiority as well.

nknighthb 12y ago
Even setting aside Poland's own small but well-equipped air force, anyone trying to establish air superiority over Poland is going spend a lot of money getting nowhere. German and American fighters on alert are an hour away, and the British and French won't be far behind. Ground forces take a lot more time. The day spent waiting for the first elements of allied rapid deployment forces is an eternity when your capital is 100 miles from Belarus.
- funkyy 12y ago
  Also thats why I stressed the woods thing - its very easy to hide equipment in woods. Poland have one of the best wood management systems in Europe. In Iraq army was exposed, air attacks were easy. In Poland or lets say Finland, Norway - woods give superior cover of army movements. Also Poland have developed one of the best manpads around - check their performance during Georgian war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grom_(missile) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grom_(missile) and are advance in production of "chameleon" screens for tanks and armoured vehicles that make them invisible to infantry and optic devices from distance.
  - aragot 12y ago
    Checking back on hiding this tank in forest vs in snow, they say they have a temperature-controlled cover. I can see how it works in desert by heating up to the temp of the sand, but anyone knows whether they can make their temperature appear lower too?
    - funkyy 12y ago
      With proper cooling mechanism is very doable but tank would need to constantly move as it would probably eject heat underneath it, so if it would stay in same place for a minute ground around it would reveal tanks location. Just to the point - this tank is hit-and-runner. It is intended to sit in bushes and when enemy is passing by it will jump out, fire few shells and using its technological advantage and mobility it would disappear back to wood/bushes. Its not constantly using engines etc to run the mask as this would be pointless especially in winter.

nknighthb 12y ago

Even setting aside Poland's own small but well-equipped air force, anyone trying to establish air superiority over Poland is going spend a lot of money getting nowhere. German and American fighters on alert are an hour away, and the British and French won't be far behind. Ground forces take a lot more time. The day spent waiting for the first elements of allied rapid deployment forces is an eternity when your capital is 100 miles from Belarus.

funkyy 12y ago
Also thats why I stressed the woods thing - its very easy to hide equipment in woods. Poland have one of the best wood management systems in Europe. In Iraq army was exposed, air attacks were easy. In Poland or lets say Finland, Norway - woods give superior cover of army movements. Also Poland have developed one of the best manpads around - check their performance during Georgian war: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grom_(missile) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grom_(missile) and are advance in production of "chameleon" screens for tanks and armoured vehicles that make them invisible to infantry and optic devices from distance.
- aragot 12y ago
  Checking back on hiding this tank in forest vs in snow, they say they have a temperature-controlled cover. I can see how it works in desert by heating up to the temp of the sand, but anyone knows whether they can make their temperature appear lower too?
  - funkyy 12y ago
    With proper cooling mechanism is very doable but tank would need to constantly move as it would probably eject heat underneath it, so if it would stay in same place for a minute ground around it would reveal tanks location. Just to the point - this tank is hit-and-runner. It is intended to sit in bushes and when enemy is passing by it will jump out, fire few shells and using its technological advantage and mobility it would disappear back to wood/bushes. Its not constantly using engines etc to run the mask as this would be pointless especially in winter.