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The biggest thing that pisses me off at the moment is their shipping. I refuse to pay for prime due to the way it seems to be enforced on the user and their nea

The biggest thing that pisses me off at the moment is their shipping. I refuse to pay for prime due to the way it seems to be enforced on the user and their near dark pattern techniques to get you to sign up at every checkout. Whenever I order something now and pick the cheapest or free shipping method, it seems to always sit in their warehouse for nearly a week before they even consider shipping it. It seems like another shady attempt to force me over to prime. Most of the time I can buy the same product for similar or cheaper (after shipping) from another retailer and not have to wonder how many days it will take them to ship it, or be upsold into a delivery club at every turn.

sliverstorm 12y ago
That's the deal, though. 7-14 day shipping (or whatever it is exactly). If it sits around in the warehouse for a week, that's their prerogative. Maybe the warehouse is operating at capacity, so they put off your order. Maybe they are trying to goad you. I don't see why it matters, you are getting what's promised.
- arbuge 12y ago
  True but the real point is that he's sufficiently annoyed at that situation to try other retailers instead...
baddox 12y ago
> I refuse to pay for prime due to the way it seems to be enforced on the user and their near dark pattern techniques to get you to sign up at every checkout. I've had Prime since shortly after it was first released (it's a no-brainer for me), so I've never encountered these "dark pattern techniques." Can you explain in more detail what you mean? I've also never experienced shipping delays, but again I've had Prime for a long time.
- coliveira 12y ago
  They offer Prime every time you buy something at Amazon. It is annoying if you really don't want to sign for it.
  - danso 12y ago
    You think that's annoying? Trying signing up for Prime and still being bombarded by ads/links to signup. Seems to have been alleviated in the recent redesign, but I was frequently bemused at how Amazon's shopping-history-feature could know so much about me...and apparently, wasn't tied to the system that spit out Join-amazon-prime links on a given page.
- christoph 12y ago
  When I click through to the checkout, I get a big yellow button with an arrow that is "proceed to checkout with 1 month free trial of Prime" on the right, and the on left a small dullish un-assuming button that is "Proceed to checkout without free trial of Amazon Prime". The styling of the button is made to almost feel like a standard "Proceed to Checkout" and the other button is made to look/feel like a "Cancel order". If you were in a hurry, it would be easy to accidentally click, thinking you were just clicking next. I've even had after that screen, it auto select - 1 day free delivery with Amazon prime trial and I have to manually select "free delivery without Amazon Prime". It just feels sleazy.

sliverstorm 12y ago

That's the deal, though. 7-14 day shipping (or whatever it is exactly). If it sits around in the warehouse for a week, that's their prerogative. Maybe the warehouse is operating at capacity, so they put off your order. Maybe they are trying to goad you. I don't see why it matters, you are getting what's promised.

arbuge 12y ago
True but the real point is that he's sufficiently annoyed at that situation to try other retailers instead...

baddox 12y ago

> I refuse to pay for prime due to the way it seems to be enforced on the user and their near dark pattern techniques to get you to sign up at every checkout. I've had Prime since shortly after it was first released (it's a no-brainer for me), so I've never encountered these "dark pattern techniques." Can you explain in more detail what you mean? I've also never experienced shipping delays, but again I've had Prime for a long time.

coliveira 12y ago
They offer Prime every time you buy something at Amazon. It is annoying if you really don't want to sign for it.
- danso 12y ago
  You think that's annoying? Trying signing up for Prime and still being bombarded by ads/links to signup. Seems to have been alleviated in the recent redesign, but I was frequently bemused at how Amazon's shopping-history-feature could know so much about me...and apparently, wasn't tied to the system that spit out Join-amazon-prime links on a given page.
christoph 12y ago
When I click through to the checkout, I get a big yellow button with an arrow that is "proceed to checkout with 1 month free trial of Prime" on the right, and the on left a small dullish un-assuming button that is "Proceed to checkout without free trial of Amazon Prime". The styling of the button is made to almost feel like a standard "Proceed to Checkout" and the other button is made to look/feel like a "Cancel order". If you were in a hurry, it would be easy to accidentally click, thinking you were just clicking next. I've even had after that screen, it auto select - 1 day free delivery with Amazon prime trial and I have to manually select "free delivery without Amazon Prime". It just feels sleazy.