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Where was Andy Rubin judged a failure?

by mintplant 12y ago

Steko 12y ago
How else do you interpret 'Andy you're not the head of Android anymore, we're giving your job to Sundar.'?
- magicalist 12y ago
  "I've been in charge of Android for 9.5 years and now I want to go work on robots"?
  - Steko 12y ago
    Knowing that Google A/B tests everything I'd have to guess 'going to work on robots' soundly outperforms 'public cuckolding by Sergei' as a way to force out execs.
    - magicalist 12y ago
      That's...not even clever? What a weird response, but I now realize that I wandered into a thread where you were just looking for some tabloid headlines. Carry on!
    - nailer 12y ago
      Sergei's girlfriend's ex is Hugo Barra, not Andy Rubin. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/sergey-brin-love-quadrangle-blamed-for-google-executives-sudden-departure-20130829-2st1m.html http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/sergey-...
- btian 12y ago
  That was not what happened. Andy Rubin worked on Android since 2003. It's not that unusual to want to work on something else after a decade.
Zigurd 12y ago
Buying Moto burned a lot of karma. Blowing that kind of money hurts, even when you're Google.
- Steko 12y ago
  I thot the CW was Google broke even by selling the pieces and getting the IP and a bunch of tax write offs.
  - x0x0 12y ago
    ignoring the time value of money $12.5B purchase - 3B cash on hand - 1B tax credits - 2.4B sale of desktop boxes to Arris - 2.91B sale to lenovo ========== 3.19B and google kept patents, etc. Plus there are potentially -- reporting varies -- up to another $.7B/year they kept it of tax offsets I didn't mention, so subtract another $1.4B [1] [1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/12/22/did-motorola-mobility-only-cost-google-1-5-billion/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/12/22/did-motor...
    - Zigurd 12y ago
      It wasn't so much the net ~$3B (piffle!) but approximately doubling headcount with the sort of people who got Moto to where it was before they were bought, and having to manage all that in a direction where a sale for $0.25 on the dollar is considered a success ($0.55 if you count the divested bits). It isn't quite as irrational as buying Nokia, but it's right up there. Moto was a big giant messy falling knife.

Where was Andy Rubin judged a failure?

Steko 12y ago

How else do you interpret 'Andy you're not the head of Android anymore, we're giving your job to Sundar.'?

magicalist 12y ago
"I've been in charge of Android for 9.5 years and now I want to go work on robots"?
- Steko 12y ago
  Knowing that Google A/B tests everything I'd have to guess 'going to work on robots' soundly outperforms 'public cuckolding by Sergei' as a way to force out execs.
  - magicalist 12y ago
    That's...not even clever? What a weird response, but I now realize that I wandered into a thread where you were just looking for some tabloid headlines. Carry on!
  - nailer 12y ago
    Sergei's girlfriend's ex is Hugo Barra, not Andy Rubin. http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/sergey-brin-love-quadrangle-blamed-for-google-executives-sudden-departure-20130829-2st1m.html http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/digital-life-news/sergey-...
btian 12y ago
That was not what happened. Andy Rubin worked on Android since 2003. It's not that unusual to want to work on something else after a decade.

Zigurd 12y ago

Buying Moto burned a lot of karma. Blowing that kind of money hurts, even when you're Google.

Steko 12y ago
I thot the CW was Google broke even by selling the pieces and getting the IP and a bunch of tax write offs.
- x0x0 12y ago
  ignoring the time value of money $12.5B purchase - 3B cash on hand - 1B tax credits - 2.4B sale of desktop boxes to Arris - 2.91B sale to lenovo ========== 3.19B and google kept patents, etc. Plus there are potentially -- reporting varies -- up to another $.7B/year they kept it of tax offsets I didn't mention, so subtract another $1.4B [1] [1] http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/12/22/did-motorola-mobility-only-cost-google-1-5-billion/ http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/12/22/did-motor...
  - Zigurd 12y ago
    It wasn't so much the net ~$3B (piffle!) but approximately doubling headcount with the sort of people who got Moto to where it was before they were bought, and having to manage all that in a direction where a sale for $0.25 on the dollar is considered a success ($0.55 if you count the divested bits). It isn't quite as irrational as buying Nokia, but it's right up there. Moto was a big giant messy falling knife.