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The advice is the same to everyone. Work hard on personal projects, get them online and live and running and impressive. Join a well known open source project a

The advice is the same to everyone. Work hard on personal projects, get them online and live and running and impressive. Join a well known open source project and do 200 commits. Tweet, blog regularly. Prove you know your stuff. Same advice for everyone. Almost no one does this stuff and those that do greatly increase their chance of getting work. People sit around hoping not to have to do the hard yards, hoping they'll somehow be given a job. In 2014 you have to make it happen through active, public work. If you build enough of an online reputation then you'll get work without even meeting people and they wouldn't know if you were an 80 year old giraffe.

kentbrew 12y ago
This is excellent. To it I will add: help beginners wherever possible.
zerr 12y ago
The thing is, if I have some interesting personal project that is useful for some group of people - I'd make a small business from it rather than dumping it online and just mentioning it on my CV ;)
- mqsiuser 12y ago
  No! - You likely won't, because of Spolsky [1] And... your parent commenter is right: "When it comes to hiring, I'll take a Github commit log over a resume any day.", jeresig [2] [1] The development abstraction layer (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/DevelopmentAbstraction.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/DevelopmentAbstractio...) [2] John Resig on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jeresig/status/33968704983138304 https://twitter.com/jeresig/status/33968704983138304)
  - zerr 12y ago
    At least you should try. Maybe start small (and stay small..), there is always some path to escape from cubicle nation.. ;) As for "github is your CV" hype: http://www.ashedryden.com/blog/the-ethics-of-unpaid-labor-and-the-oss-community http://www.ashedryden.com/blog/the-ethics-of-unpaid-labor-an... https://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/11/15/why-github-is-not-your-cv/ https://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/11/15/why-github-is-not-your-c...
    - mqsiuser 12y ago
      On "the ethics of unpaid labor": YOU haven't been to a good university ? And on "Why github is not your CV": Your animated gif is not advancing the discussion AND nobody said that github=yourCV. You can bend reality (to your favour) but just not too much!
      - zerr 12y ago
        > Your animated gif is not advancing the discussion Hmm, sorry, when I opened it used to be an article actually (and it is not mine). Here is the cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yFBroqO-1nkJ:https://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/11/15/why-github-is-not-your-cv/ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yFBroqO... >You can bend reality (to your favour) but just not too much! This might be reality in some hipster web startup scene. I'm glad I'm not in that domain.
        mqsiuser 12y ago
        The URL is valid (copy and paste or type it in). BUT: If you go there from HN he dispays just the gif Wow, ... he seems to protect his article from the HN-crowd :-D
    - flinkblinkhink 12y ago
      Github isn't your CV but one of the realities of human nature is that public recognition increases your standing in the eyes of job interviewers.
      - mqsiuser 12y ago
        Europe is very conservative: Standing out might be even a downer. But generally good public (e.g. on github) standing should justifiy you a job (maybe even a highly paid one) EDIT: Wow, thanks for the downvotes: Just to let you know: I LIVE (and work since almost 10 years) IN Europe! I have 2 (relevant!) projects on github and usually don't talk about them at hiring situations (though they are mentioned in my CV and are actually used (and appreciated) by people out there) But look... you may just know better (and I am eager to hear your reply) !

kentbrew 12y ago

This is excellent. To it I will add: help beginners wherever possible.

zerr 12y ago

The thing is, if I have some interesting personal project that is useful for some group of people - I'd make a small business from it rather than dumping it online and just mentioning it on my CV ;)

mqsiuser 12y ago
No! - You likely won't, because of Spolsky [1] And... your parent commenter is right: "When it comes to hiring, I'll take a Github commit log over a resume any day.", jeresig [2] [1] The development abstraction layer (http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/DevelopmentAbstraction.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/DevelopmentAbstractio...) [2] John Resig on Twitter (https://twitter.com/jeresig/status/33968704983138304 https://twitter.com/jeresig/status/33968704983138304)
- zerr 12y ago
  At least you should try. Maybe start small (and stay small..), there is always some path to escape from cubicle nation.. ;) As for "github is your CV" hype: http://www.ashedryden.com/blog/the-ethics-of-unpaid-labor-and-the-oss-community http://www.ashedryden.com/blog/the-ethics-of-unpaid-labor-an... https://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/11/15/why-github-is-not-your-cv/ https://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/11/15/why-github-is-not-your-c...
  - mqsiuser 12y ago
    On "the ethics of unpaid labor": YOU haven't been to a good university ? And on "Why github is not your CV": Your animated gif is not advancing the discussion AND nobody said that github=yourCV. You can bend reality (to your favour) but just not too much!
    - zerr 12y ago
      > Your animated gif is not advancing the discussion Hmm, sorry, when I opened it used to be an article actually (and it is not mine). Here is the cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yFBroqO-1nkJ:https://blog.jcoglan.com/2013/11/15/why-github-is-not-your-cv/ http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yFBroqO... >You can bend reality (to your favour) but just not too much! This might be reality in some hipster web startup scene. I'm glad I'm not in that domain.
      - mqsiuser 12y ago
        The URL is valid (copy and paste or type it in). BUT: If you go there from HN he dispays just the gif Wow, ... he seems to protect his article from the HN-crowd :-D
  - flinkblinkhink 12y ago
    Github isn't your CV but one of the realities of human nature is that public recognition increases your standing in the eyes of job interviewers.
    - mqsiuser 12y ago
      Europe is very conservative: Standing out might be even a downer. But generally good public (e.g. on github) standing should justifiy you a job (maybe even a highly paid one) EDIT: Wow, thanks for the downvotes: Just to let you know: I LIVE (and work since almost 10 years) IN Europe! I have 2 (relevant!) projects on github and usually don't talk about them at hiring situations (though they are mentioned in my CV and are actually used (and appreciated) by people out there) But look... you may just know better (and I am eager to hear your reply) !