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Those are the stated reasons. It's worth noting no such review was ever written for Zoe Quinn's game. GamerGate has now doxxed and threatened a number of wome

Those are the stated reasons. It's worth noting no such review was ever written for Zoe Quinn's game. GamerGate has now doxxed and threatened a number of women in the gaming world (developers, critics, actresses) and Phil Fish the creator of Fez. They publicly organize to drive advertisers away from publications which disagree with them or call Gamergate out as misogynistic or threatening.

towaway5098 12y ago
There's the Intel vice president who told me via email that GamerGate was "doing great work" and that he was "sick of slander and self-loathing from the press". He was talking about male journalists who do misandrist feminists' work for them. "I am pressing that team, it's not mine, but I am exerting influence when I can, to stop spending money with people who hate themselves and hate our clients," he added by phone later. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/23/Gawker-dishonest-fascists-of-GamerGate-could-cost-us-millions http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/23/Gawker-... Intels own words. Are you saying they're misogynists or threatening because they agree with GamerGate? Besides it's the media that pushing away their advertisers, not just gamergate. They turned on their advertisers after them wanting to distance themselves from pro-bullying, sexist & racist articles/messages.
defen 12y ago
Right, that's why I said "supposedly".
- knowtheory 12y ago
  Yes, but saying "supposedly" is leaving the door open. The door is not open. No such thing ever happened.
  - defen 12y ago
    If you ask Google to define "supposedly" it says: "according to what is generally assumed or believed (often used to indicate that the speaker doubts the truth of the statement)." I hate these sort of semantic arguments. In case my sentence was not clear, I don't support the things that have been done to people under the guise of "Gamergate", I don't think she slept with anyone (nor do I care nor see why it is relevant), I don't think Kotaku gave the game good press because of the "alleged" romantic relationship, I honestly I don't give a shit about any of it, and I feel like I lost "the game" by even attempting to casually engage with this dumb fucking topic in any way.
    - knowtheory 12y ago
      Hey man, i'm not criticizing you. You're making a good point. I want to make that point even stronger. It's not semantics in the sense that we're quibbling over the definition of words. Your point can be even more definitive. Gamergaters are claiming something that is not true. It doesn't matter if Gamergaters believe it to be true. It's not. <3
gohrt 12y ago
The thing that confuses me (as a non-"Gamer" netizen) is that I am constantly bombarded with the "meta' arguing and hand-wringing about "GamerGate" on HN etc, but have yet to see anything actually from the core activity of the "movement" or whatever.
- ObviousScience 12y ago
  That's because it's largely a tempest in a teacup happening in a smaller corner of online culture, but various people who overlap between the two are trying to play up its importance for various political reasons.
- rtpg 12y ago
  Intel pulled advertising from Gamasutra under pressure from these people, some women independent game developers have "ragequit"(read: harassed beyond belief so did the only logical thing) from twitter and the like. It's violent if you follow the independent games scene These are also the same group of people who forced Phil Fish off the internet, basically.
  - ANTSANTS 12y ago
    Intel pulled advertising from Gamasutra because they directly insulted a customer group that is very important to their brand. Intel didn't cave under pressure, they simply acted rationally to a media outlet committing brand suicide. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_to_be_your_audience_Gamers_are_over.php http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_t... Phil Fish forced himself off the internet by being a contemptible jackass with an ego to rival that of Kanye West who fights with his coworkers, publicly shat on an aspiring Japanese game dev during a Q&A panel that asked him a polite question regarding his thoughts on their country's games, says that gamers are "the worst fucking people," tells people to "suck his dick, choke on it" then claims to be a feminist without a hint of irony, completely and utterly lacks self awareness, and just generally can't go a fucking day without throwing a tantrum on twitter. EDIT: Oh neat, my other post in this thread, a collection of links from an opposing perspective, was flagkilled. Way to flag/downvote for disagreement, redd-I mean Hacker News.

towaway5098 12y ago

There's the Intel vice president who told me via email that GamerGate was "doing great work" and that he was "sick of slander and self-loathing from the press". He was talking about male journalists who do misandrist feminists' work for them. "I am pressing that team, it's not mine, but I am exerting influence when I can, to stop spending money with people who hate themselves and hate our clients," he added by phone later. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/23/Gawker-dishonest-fascists-of-GamerGate-could-cost-us-millions http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/23/Gawker-... Intels own words. Are you saying they're misogynists or threatening because they agree with GamerGate? Besides it's the media that pushing away their advertisers, not just gamergate. They turned on their advertisers after them wanting to distance themselves from pro-bullying, sexist & racist articles/messages.

defen 12y ago

Right, that's why I said "supposedly".

knowtheory 12y ago
Yes, but saying "supposedly" is leaving the door open. The door is not open. No such thing ever happened.
- defen 12y ago
  If you ask Google to define "supposedly" it says: "according to what is generally assumed or believed (often used to indicate that the speaker doubts the truth of the statement)." I hate these sort of semantic arguments. In case my sentence was not clear, I don't support the things that have been done to people under the guise of "Gamergate", I don't think she slept with anyone (nor do I care nor see why it is relevant), I don't think Kotaku gave the game good press because of the "alleged" romantic relationship, I honestly I don't give a shit about any of it, and I feel like I lost "the game" by even attempting to casually engage with this dumb fucking topic in any way.
  - knowtheory 12y ago
    Hey man, i'm not criticizing you. You're making a good point. I want to make that point even stronger. It's not semantics in the sense that we're quibbling over the definition of words. Your point can be even more definitive. Gamergaters are claiming something that is not true. It doesn't matter if Gamergaters believe it to be true. It's not. <3

gohrt 12y ago

The thing that confuses me (as a non-"Gamer" netizen) is that I am constantly bombarded with the "meta' arguing and hand-wringing about "GamerGate" on HN etc, but have yet to see anything actually from the core activity of the "movement" or whatever.

ObviousScience 12y ago
That's because it's largely a tempest in a teacup happening in a smaller corner of online culture, but various people who overlap between the two are trying to play up its importance for various political reasons.
rtpg 12y ago
Intel pulled advertising from Gamasutra under pressure from these people, some women independent game developers have "ragequit"(read: harassed beyond belief so did the only logical thing) from twitter and the like. It's violent if you follow the independent games scene These are also the same group of people who forced Phil Fish off the internet, basically.
- ANTSANTS 12y ago
  Intel pulled advertising from Gamasutra because they directly insulted a customer group that is very important to their brand. Intel didn't cave under pressure, they simply acted rationally to a media outlet committing brand suicide. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_to_be_your_audience_Gamers_are_over.php http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_t... Phil Fish forced himself off the internet by being a contemptible jackass with an ego to rival that of Kanye West who fights with his coworkers, publicly shat on an aspiring Japanese game dev during a Q&A panel that asked him a polite question regarding his thoughts on their country's games, says that gamers are "the worst fucking people," tells people to "suck his dick, choke on it" then claims to be a feminist without a hint of irony, completely and utterly lacks self awareness, and just generally can't go a fucking day without throwing a tantrum on twitter. EDIT: Oh neat, my other post in this thread, a collection of links from an opposing perspective, was flagkilled. Way to flag/downvote for disagreement, redd-I mean Hacker News.