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Just to be clear to whoever downvoted me, I was being sincere. I was afraid to click this link until I googled "Kippo," and I assume others are as well or this

Just to be clear to whoever downvoted me, I was being sincere. I was afraid to click this link until I googled "Kippo," and I assume others are as well or this would have more points by now.

abruzzi 12y ago
honeypot is pretty standard terminology for a intentionally vulnerable system intended to attract hackers. Maybe I'm unique but I wouldn't associate the term with sex.* * I don't know wether the term originated on its own (i.e. Winnie the Pooh getting stuck in his honeypot) but the term "honey trap" was spy terminology during the cold war for a trap that lures the target with sex, but that term is so removed I really don't associate it with this.
- delluminatus 12y ago
  It's not (directly) related to sex. Honeypot is slang for a sting operation; it's not only security professionals who use the term but also the police.
  - chpp 12y ago
    I'm honestly really surprised that someone on HN would assume HoneyPot was anything but a reference to the "technical" honeypot. Guy deserves a downvote.
    - dmix 12y ago
      Downvotes are not for disagreeing or disliking a comment. Only if it doesn't add to the discussion. At least thats how it used to be, before HN traffic exploded and became redditized a while back. This should be communicated better.
      - Fuzzwah 12y ago
        I can only paraphrase PG because I don't want to spend any time digging for the actual comment, but he's basically said: People can use downvotes however they want. There is no guideline to communicate. I can personally see the pros and cons of this stance. The cons are pretty obvious, but the big pro is that there shouldn't be discussions like you and I are having now.
    - genericuser 12y ago
      My initial thought was it was a link to some sort of sting operation also, as I did not know what Kippo was. I could definitely see sting operations as being interesting to the segment of this crowd with more anti-government leanings.
- ANTSANTS 12y ago
  I'd agree if there was just a little more context in the title. Maybe "Hackers Caught on Video with the Kippo Honeypot" or something would be totally unambiguous. Maybe I'm completely fucked in the head or something, but since only one or two other people in this comment thread seemed to catch my drift, I'll be explicit: the specific phrasing of "honeypot video gallery" makes me think "collection of videos that some police or 3 letter agency uses as a honeypot to catch criminals" which translates to "either gore/snuff or child pornography." Either something illegal to look at, or an article discussing the topic that could still ruin a sensitive or vulnerable person's day. And of course such a thing would never reach 50+ upvotes on HN, but when I posted that comment, it was on the front page with 3 points and 0 comments. It was entirely within the realm of possibility then of being something horrible that a troll had used a voting ring to promote. Maybe now at 56 upvotes this concern seems ridiculous, but I hope my apprehension might make some sense within that context. (also, I think it's ironic that literally the only time I've ever felt that a different submission title would be warranted, it remains unchanged...)

Just to be clear to whoever downvoted me, I was being sincere. I was afraid to click this link until I googled "Kippo," and I assume others are as well or this would have more points by now.

abruzzi 12y ago

honeypot is pretty standard terminology for a intentionally vulnerable system intended to attract hackers. Maybe I'm unique but I wouldn't associate the term with sex.* * I don't know wether the term originated on its own (i.e. Winnie the Pooh getting stuck in his honeypot) but the term "honey trap" was spy terminology during the cold war for a trap that lures the target with sex, but that term is so removed I really don't associate it with this.

delluminatus 12y ago
It's not (directly) related to sex. Honeypot is slang for a sting operation; it's not only security professionals who use the term but also the police.
- chpp 12y ago
  I'm honestly really surprised that someone on HN would assume HoneyPot was anything but a reference to the "technical" honeypot. Guy deserves a downvote.
  - dmix 12y ago
    Downvotes are not for disagreeing or disliking a comment. Only if it doesn't add to the discussion. At least thats how it used to be, before HN traffic exploded and became redditized a while back. This should be communicated better.
    - Fuzzwah 12y ago
      I can only paraphrase PG because I don't want to spend any time digging for the actual comment, but he's basically said: People can use downvotes however they want. There is no guideline to communicate. I can personally see the pros and cons of this stance. The cons are pretty obvious, but the big pro is that there shouldn't be discussions like you and I are having now.
  - genericuser 12y ago
    My initial thought was it was a link to some sort of sting operation also, as I did not know what Kippo was. I could definitely see sting operations as being interesting to the segment of this crowd with more anti-government leanings.
ANTSANTS 12y ago
I'd agree if there was just a little more context in the title. Maybe "Hackers Caught on Video with the Kippo Honeypot" or something would be totally unambiguous. Maybe I'm completely fucked in the head or something, but since only one or two other people in this comment thread seemed to catch my drift, I'll be explicit: the specific phrasing of "honeypot video gallery" makes me think "collection of videos that some police or 3 letter agency uses as a honeypot to catch criminals" which translates to "either gore/snuff or child pornography." Either something illegal to look at, or an article discussing the topic that could still ruin a sensitive or vulnerable person's day. And of course such a thing would never reach 50+ upvotes on HN, but when I posted that comment, it was on the front page with 3 points and 0 comments. It was entirely within the realm of possibility then of being something horrible that a troll had used a voting ring to promote. Maybe now at 56 upvotes this concern seems ridiculous, but I hope my apprehension might make some sense within that context. (also, I think it's ironic that literally the only time I've ever felt that a different submission title would be warranted, it remains unchanged...)