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As a non american looking at this from the outside this whole rental/tenant control looks like legislated communism.

maxerickson 12y ago
As opposed to what other sort of communism? Also, note that "Prop G" is more or less the opposite of legislative, it's a ballot initiative, direct democracy.
- dragonwriter 12y ago
  > Also, note that "Prop G" is more or less the opposite of legislative Legislative = law making. Prop G is more or less exactly legislative. > it's a ballot initiative, direct democracy. Yes, its a ballot initiative, which is a direct form of citizen exercise of legislative power (expressly, along with the power of referendum, reserved by the people in the otherwise-general assignment of legislative power to the State Legislature in Art. 4, Sec. 1 of the California State Constitution.)
  - maxerickson 12y ago
    I think I did okay understanding how the other poster was using the word, they were talking about a government assembly making laws, not about law making in general (why would anybody bother saying "law making communism" vs "communism"?).
    - dragonwriter 12y ago
      If one is using "communism" as in actual Communist theory, then "government-assembly-directed-communism" doesn't make sense either -- that's, in that framework, socialism, communism is what you get after the state withers away. If you are using "communism" in the usual sense anti-Communist speakers due -- referring to government structure typical of authoritarian regimes that have espouse Communism as an ideology -- then distinguishing "government-assembly-directed communism" vs. "communism" still doesn't make sense, as all such "communism" is, necessarily, directed by a government assembly. So I don't think "legislative communism" makes much sense in any case.
      - maxerickson 12y ago
        Your last sentence was more or less my point, I just screwed it up with "more or less the opposite of legislative", which I admit is confused, but I was trying to say that the Prop wasn't being handed down by the government.
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- venomsnake 12y ago
  Three wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner is also a direct democracy. Just saying ...
  - maxerickson 12y ago
    There's no endorsement of direct democracy in my post.

As opposed to what other sort of communism? Also, note that "Prop G" is more or less the opposite of legislative, it's a ballot initiative, direct democracy.

dragonwriter 12y ago
> Also, note that "Prop G" is more or less the opposite of legislative Legislative = law making. Prop G is more or less exactly legislative. > it's a ballot initiative, direct democracy. Yes, its a ballot initiative, which is a direct form of citizen exercise of legislative power (expressly, along with the power of referendum, reserved by the people in the otherwise-general assignment of legislative power to the State Legislature in Art. 4, Sec. 1 of the California State Constitution.)
- maxerickson 12y ago
  I think I did okay understanding how the other poster was using the word, they were talking about a government assembly making laws, not about law making in general (why would anybody bother saying "law making communism" vs "communism"?).
  - dragonwriter 12y ago
    If one is using "communism" as in actual Communist theory, then "government-assembly-directed-communism" doesn't make sense either -- that's, in that framework, socialism, communism is what you get after the state withers away. If you are using "communism" in the usual sense anti-Communist speakers due -- referring to government structure typical of authoritarian regimes that have espouse Communism as an ideology -- then distinguishing "government-assembly-directed communism" vs. "communism" still doesn't make sense, as all such "communism" is, necessarily, directed by a government assembly. So I don't think "legislative communism" makes much sense in any case.
    - maxerickson 12y ago
      Your last sentence was more or less my point, I just screwed it up with "more or less the opposite of legislative", which I admit is confused, but I was trying to say that the Prop wasn't being handed down by the government.
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venomsnake 12y ago
Three wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner is also a direct democracy. Just saying ...
- maxerickson 12y ago
  There's no endorsement of direct democracy in my post.