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That's a pretty rude and condescending response. Feeling excluded from a particular culture is very different from expecting a task or learning a skill to be ea
by ritchiea 12y ago
That's a pretty rude and condescending response. Feeling excluded from a particular culture is very different from expecting a task or learning a skill to be easy. Imagine trying to learn a new skill and finding that your peers & superiors in the field are hostile to you but friendly to each other. This is the experience many women report and I've witnessed it myself.
- ElComradio 12y agoYes. There are obstacles, we agree. If you wanted to learn something, say, plumbing, and found that fellow plumbers viewed you as an effete nerd, would you just lay down your wrench, or would you resolve to be the best plumber possible and soldier on? Which course of action do you think would be the most rewarding?
- ritchiea 12y agoShe's not talking to some faceless group or venting in a vacuum, she's on a website that is a community of programmers. The plumbers have every right to think I'm an effete nerd, but if someone tells me my misogynist behavior is excluding women from the field of programming I care.
- ElComradio 12y agoI think we are talking past each other.