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You might want to consider tmux (http://tmux.sourceforge.net/ http://tmux.sourceforge.net/) as an alternative. Its cleaner (and, incidentally, BSD-licensed) co

You might want to consider tmux (http://tmux.sourceforge.net/ http://tmux.sourceforge.net/) as an alternative. Its cleaner (and, incidentally, BSD-licensed) codebase means that it's getting features that have been gathering dust on screen's to-do list for ages. Most notably, its dwm/XMonad-style layouts (http://tmux.sourceforge.net/tmux6.png http://tmux.sourceforge.net/tmux6.png) are really nice. AFAICT, screen doesn't even officially have vertically split windows yet, it's still an unofficial patch. Either way, if you use Unix, learn to use screen or tmux. They're tremendouslyuseful. (Also: Noisy wireless connections are the new flaky dialup, when it comes to resuming shell sessions.)

pyre 17y ago
No offense, but how does it's BSD-licensed codebase mean that it 'gets more features'?
- silentbicycle 17y ago
  I rephrased my comment - I think it's the cleaner codebase that makes the big difference. Its BSD license has some perks, though - for one thing, it's part of the OpenBSD base system now, which means security auditing and excellent maintainers. That will probably also lead to more features in the long run. OpenBSD man page: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=tmux http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=tmux
soundphed 17y ago
Thanks, I will look at that, looks rad! I just thought the article covered some really key points about multiplexing terminals in general...
- jacquesm 17y ago
  What does 'looks rad' mean ?
  - soundphed 17y ago
    pardon me, I meant to say that it (tmux) looks neat and useful!
    - jacquesm 17y ago
      Ah :) Sorry, I felt a little old there for a second.
      - apotheon 17y ago
        "Rad" hasn't really been in widespread use since the '80s.
  - pyre 17y ago
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rad http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rad Basically short for 'radical' and a replacement for 'awesome' or 'cool.'
- blasdel 17y ago
  tmux is not rad, just clean -- see http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs for a truly radical screen replacement: Grab a process that you forgot to start inside neercs Great screensaver Real time thumbnails of your shells Special effects when closing a window Various window layouts...
  - mahmud 17y ago
    How does any of this work when through putty or when connecting to X-less unices from the myriad of non-Unix boxes out there?
    - cma 17y ago
      At least click the link. It is all done in ascii art.
  - apotheon 17y ago
    I rather like the fact it uses the WTFPL, too. It's not really a replacement for something like tmux, though, from what I've seen.
duskwuff 17y ago
I was able to make tmux hang in a matter of a few minutes of playing with it (and not even trying hard). It's definitely got promise, but it also still has a way to go.
- silentbicycle 17y ago
  Can you reproduce it, or describe what you did? In a couple months of using it constantly on three systems, I've never had a single problem with it.
  - duskwuff 17y ago
    Started tmux, split the window a few times, ^B <space> a few times, and it hung. I've submitted a sample to the developer. (It's getting stuck somewhere around screen_write_copy.)
JulianMorrison 17y ago
How does that compare to dvtm? http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/ http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/
- silentbicycle 17y ago
  Interesting. I haven't heard of that before, I'll look into it. I doubt a comparison based on a first impression would be useful, though.
Hackbrot 17y ago
Nice piece of software.

pyre 17y ago

No offense, but how does it's BSD-licensed codebase mean that it 'gets more features'?

silentbicycle 17y ago
I rephrased my comment - I think it's the cleaner codebase that makes the big difference. Its BSD license has some perks, though - for one thing, it's part of the OpenBSD base system now, which means security auditing and excellent maintainers. That will probably also lead to more features in the long run. OpenBSD man page: http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=tmux http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=tmux

soundphed 17y ago

Thanks, I will look at that, looks rad! I just thought the article covered some really key points about multiplexing terminals in general...

jacquesm 17y ago
What does 'looks rad' mean ?
- soundphed 17y ago
  pardon me, I meant to say that it (tmux) looks neat and useful!
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Ah :) Sorry, I felt a little old there for a second.
    - apotheon 17y ago
      "Rad" hasn't really been in widespread use since the '80s.
- pyre 17y ago
  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rad http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rad Basically short for 'radical' and a replacement for 'awesome' or 'cool.'
blasdel 17y ago
tmux is not rad, just clean -- see http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/neercs for a truly radical screen replacement: Grab a process that you forgot to start inside neercs Great screensaver Real time thumbnails of your shells Special effects when closing a window Various window layouts...
- mahmud 17y ago
  How does any of this work when through putty or when connecting to X-less unices from the myriad of non-Unix boxes out there?
  - cma 17y ago
    At least click the link. It is all done in ascii art.
- apotheon 17y ago
  I rather like the fact it uses the WTFPL, too. It's not really a replacement for something like tmux, though, from what I've seen.

duskwuff 17y ago

I was able to make tmux hang in a matter of a few minutes of playing with it (and not even trying hard). It's definitely got promise, but it also still has a way to go.

silentbicycle 17y ago
Can you reproduce it, or describe what you did? In a couple months of using it constantly on three systems, I've never had a single problem with it.
- duskwuff 17y ago
  Started tmux, split the window a few times, ^B <space> a few times, and it hung. I've submitted a sample to the developer. (It's getting stuck somewhere around screen_write_copy.)

JulianMorrison 17y ago

How does that compare to dvtm? http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/ http://www.brain-dump.org/projects/dvtm/

silentbicycle 17y ago
Interesting. I haven't heard of that before, I'll look into it. I doubt a comparison based on a first impression would be useful, though.

Hackbrot 17y ago

Nice piece of software.