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A few thoughts: - Browsing the source code directory, this is very very "early stage" at best and perhaps too early to warrant a "Get It Now" link - There is

A few thoughts: - Browsing the source code directory, this is very very "early stage" at best and perhaps too early to warrant a "Get It Now" link - There is an alternative implementation of Swift for the interested, although not open source, being developed by RemObjects: http://www.remobjects.com/elements/silver/ http://www.remobjects.com/elements/silver/ - Apple should definitely open source Swift, but I doubt this kind of pressure is going to have any significant sway on their decision one way or another. When in the past did developer pressure influence any of their major strategic decisions? - Referring to Richard Stallman as "Richard", Steve Jobs as "Steve" and Chris Lattern as "Chris" in the letter comes off as a bit sarcastic/snippy in tone - I don't believe Apple is promoting Swift to encourage lock-in anymore than Apple promoted Objective-C to encourage lock-in; as others here have stated I think the author misunderstands Apple's business model/philosophy

zerr 12y ago
> Referring to Richard Stallman as "Richard", Steve Jobs as "Steve" and Chris Lattern as "Chris" in the letter comes off as a bit sarcastic/snippy in tone Not necessary. First names are often used for familiarity, and it is fine e.g. for celebrities. Although, I have no idea who is Chris :)
- WoodenChair 12y ago
  That's right for familiarity. Unless he personally knows each of them, he shouldn't assume such familiarity. At least where I'm from it's considered uncouth to do so. Of course it's a cultural thing, and perhaps where you're from it doesn't sound the same way to your ear.
  - zerr 12y ago
    I think it's more personal [opinion] thing rather than cultural. To me, "Mr. Stallman" would sound sarcastic. And don't forget that we're talking about celebrities. Another example - if you've grown up on Beatles music, you'd say Paul and Ringo rather than Mr. McCartney or Mr. Starkey, right? And I'm pretty sure Paul and Ringo prefer the former one ;)

zerr 12y ago

> Referring to Richard Stallman as "Richard", Steve Jobs as "Steve" and Chris Lattern as "Chris" in the letter comes off as a bit sarcastic/snippy in tone Not necessary. First names are often used for familiarity, and it is fine e.g. for celebrities. Although, I have no idea who is Chris :)

WoodenChair 12y ago
That's right for familiarity. Unless he personally knows each of them, he shouldn't assume such familiarity. At least where I'm from it's considered uncouth to do so. Of course it's a cultural thing, and perhaps where you're from it doesn't sound the same way to your ear.
- zerr 12y ago
  I think it's more personal [opinion] thing rather than cultural. To me, "Mr. Stallman" would sound sarcastic. And don't forget that we're talking about celebrities. Another example - if you've grown up on Beatles music, you'd say Paul and Ringo rather than Mr. McCartney or Mr. Starkey, right? And I'm pretty sure Paul and Ringo prefer the former one ;)