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I presume this is supposed to appeal to the "i dont have any female friends because i am a nerd" crowd. Speaking from personal experience, this ends around 18-1

I presume this is supposed to appeal to the "i dont have any female friends because i am a nerd" crowd. Speaking from personal experience, this ends around 18-19 years of age. Unfortunately - in my opinion - at that age, an "average" guy can barely afford clothes, let alone a personal-shopper-girl he needs to pay money to for the privilege. For older guys, they almost certainly have a friend or a buddy's sister or whatever. So, if the younger age group is in fact the target, would the girl also be of similar age? Otherwise, i dont see how a 25 year old can shop well for a 17 year old. What is the ultimte goal here? to make guys more appealing to the opposite sex? Why not take them to a salon instead? A nice haircut and an eye brow plucking would go a long way for many. Better yet, why not organize group movie dates or similar instead? PS: Serious thoughts above - really...

skizm 12y ago
> Speaking from personal experience, this ends around 18-19 years of age. Bad assumption.
- 2xlbuds 12y ago
  Anecdotal, I know, but 18-19 is when most people go to college, and get to shed whatever labels they had in high school. It certainly happened that way with me and my college friends.
  - Dewie 12y ago
    You mean going from a pretty gender balanced high school, to a department with a large majority of men? (we were talking about nerds here, and I am talking about things like CS departments, since this is HN.)
    - cfcosta 12y ago
      And also to a place where no one will judge you because you're a nerd. My CS classes where pretty gender-balanced, more so than my high school, and I can assure you that's not the problem.
    - cfcosta 12y ago
      And also to a place where no one will judge you because you're a nerd. My CS classes where pretty gender-balanced, more so than my high school, and I can assure you that's not the problem.
partywithalocal 12y ago
I disagree. Older guys may have female friends, but I don't know any single friends (including myself when I was single) that ask female friends to go shopping with them - maybe they should, but they don't. I think it's a pretty big thing to ask a non-girlfriend/non-date to go out on a day shopping with you just to help you out. Maybe it's a stereotype, but it seems based on fact that a lot more girls enjoy shopping for clothes than guys do and have a better eye for guys' clothes than guys themselves. Lot's of services with stylists (who are mostly women) picking for clothes for guys & sending them to you in a pack are popping up, like The Cloakroom: https://thecloakroom.nl/en/ https://thecloakroom.nl/en/ The only difference with this is that the guy and girl go out shopping in a city together. But I also find it curious that the idea draws so many strong reactions - positive & negative. I think the name has an impact. Interested to hear more thoughts from people.
- drglitch 12y ago
  You're right on the reactions part - personally, i often find style suggestions from my gay friends (im straight) to be more valuable than from girls. Also curious as to why. On higher end of scale, stores such as bloomingdales and neimanns (burgdorf for those in nyc) offer free personal shoppers.
- akama 12y ago
  I'm really curious that the two services I have seen mentioned here, Trunk Club & The Cloakroom, have such high prices. In personal experience I spend more on clothes then most of my friends but I would never spend that amount of money on certain pieces of clothing. The Cloakroom lists t-shirts as being €30-€90 ($38-$114) which seems outrageously high.
genericuser 12y ago
>this is supposed to appeal to the "i dont have any female friends because i am a nerd" crowd. Speaking from personal experience, this ends around 18-19 years of age. Yeah I guess I transitioned from denial about it being due to my nerd status to "why don't I have any friends at all, am I really that horrible" around the age of 20. Around 30 I just came to accept being alone, and having given up it matters very little what I wear.
- grub5000 12y ago
  Gaining female friends is a learn-able skill, sir.
  - genericuser 12y ago
    Yes, and so is sending a space craft to mars. Was there a point to saying it is learn-able? Lots of things are learn-able skills, different people will require different amounts of time to learn different skills. It is up to them to make rational decisions on whether its worth it for them to continue learning those skills. At some point I realized making friends male or female was not a skill worth the unknown further amount of time it would take me to learn. I was not going to fall for a sunk cost fallacy, just because I had spent years trying to make friends and failing.
grub5000 12y ago
> eye brow plucking Is this really a thing?
- Dewie 12y ago
  I do it, though I guess I only initially made it worse. I can't go back now, though, since now it is unruly as hell if I don't do something about it.
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Dewie 12y ago
> I presume this is supposed to appeal to the "i dont have any female friends because i am a nerd" crowd. And I suppose the purpose of this sentence is to shame them?

skizm 12y ago

> Speaking from personal experience, this ends around 18-19 years of age. Bad assumption.

2xlbuds 12y ago
Anecdotal, I know, but 18-19 is when most people go to college, and get to shed whatever labels they had in high school. It certainly happened that way with me and my college friends.
- Dewie 12y ago
  You mean going from a pretty gender balanced high school, to a department with a large majority of men? (we were talking about nerds here, and I am talking about things like CS departments, since this is HN.)
  - cfcosta 12y ago
    And also to a place where no one will judge you because you're a nerd. My CS classes where pretty gender-balanced, more so than my high school, and I can assure you that's not the problem.
  - cfcosta 12y ago
    And also to a place where no one will judge you because you're a nerd. My CS classes where pretty gender-balanced, more so than my high school, and I can assure you that's not the problem.

partywithalocal 12y ago

I disagree. Older guys may have female friends, but I don't know any single friends (including myself when I was single) that ask female friends to go shopping with them - maybe they should, but they don't. I think it's a pretty big thing to ask a non-girlfriend/non-date to go out on a day shopping with you just to help you out. Maybe it's a stereotype, but it seems based on fact that a lot more girls enjoy shopping for clothes than guys do and have a better eye for guys' clothes than guys themselves. Lot's of services with stylists (who are mostly women) picking for clothes for guys & sending them to you in a pack are popping up, like The Cloakroom: https://thecloakroom.nl/en/ https://thecloakroom.nl/en/ The only difference with this is that the guy and girl go out shopping in a city together. But I also find it curious that the idea draws so many strong reactions - positive & negative. I think the name has an impact. Interested to hear more thoughts from people.

drglitch 12y ago
You're right on the reactions part - personally, i often find style suggestions from my gay friends (im straight) to be more valuable than from girls. Also curious as to why. On higher end of scale, stores such as bloomingdales and neimanns (burgdorf for those in nyc) offer free personal shoppers.
akama 12y ago
I'm really curious that the two services I have seen mentioned here, Trunk Club & The Cloakroom, have such high prices. In personal experience I spend more on clothes then most of my friends but I would never spend that amount of money on certain pieces of clothing. The Cloakroom lists t-shirts as being €30-€90 ($38-$114) which seems outrageously high.

genericuser 12y ago

>this is supposed to appeal to the "i dont have any female friends because i am a nerd" crowd. Speaking from personal experience, this ends around 18-19 years of age. Yeah I guess I transitioned from denial about it being due to my nerd status to "why don't I have any friends at all, am I really that horrible" around the age of 20. Around 30 I just came to accept being alone, and having given up it matters very little what I wear.

grub5000 12y ago
Gaining female friends is a learn-able skill, sir.
- genericuser 12y ago
  Yes, and so is sending a space craft to mars. Was there a point to saying it is learn-able? Lots of things are learn-able skills, different people will require different amounts of time to learn different skills. It is up to them to make rational decisions on whether its worth it for them to continue learning those skills. At some point I realized making friends male or female was not a skill worth the unknown further amount of time it would take me to learn. I was not going to fall for a sunk cost fallacy, just because I had spent years trying to make friends and failing.

grub5000 12y ago

> eye brow plucking Is this really a thing?

Dewie 12y ago
I do it, though I guess I only initially made it worse. I can't go back now, though, since now it is unruly as hell if I don't do something about it.
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Dewie 12y ago

> I presume this is supposed to appeal to the "i dont have any female friends because i am a nerd" crowd. And I suppose the purpose of this sentence is to shame them?