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With more interaction online moving to smartphones and tablets, what do we do instead of USB hardware keys like these?

by bjelkeman-again 12y ago

x1798DE 12y ago
Probably a similar device but with some sort of low-power NFC transponder rather than a physical connection.
- janzer 12y ago
  I've never used it but, https://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/yubikey-neo/ https://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/yubikey-neo... seems to fit the bill.
  - jgrowl 12y ago
    I have one. It is pretty cool but it hasn't been real useful up until now. I haven't found many apps that support it. I ended up just grabbing the clipboard app that yubikey puts out. I tried using the static password feature by using it as part of my master password in 1password but the newer versions of 1password block using the clipboard in android (with good reason). It would be pretty awesome if password-managers added support for it.
    - ascorbic 12y ago
      LastPass supports Yubikey natively, including on mobile.
iancarroll 12y ago
Authy allows Bluetooth communication to get 2FA codes from your phone onto your Mac.
tpurves 12y ago
Wearables with BTLE.
- higherpurpose 12y ago
  Bluetooth has too long range. That's why it was never a good idea for Apple to adopt it for payments either, despite all the cheering for it when BLE came to the iPhone. I'd rather these only work with NFC (you know, like Apple Pay). Although I wouldn't mind the BLE option too for things like opening the garage door. But for anything else where you're at close range anyway, it should be NFC by default.
  - feld 12y ago
    Who cares what the range is? You can detect distance of the device before communicating. And do you think the data is not encrypted? "Wifi has too long of range; don't ever purchase something if you're on wifi!"
  - giovannibajo1 12y ago
    BLE is a superior radio protocol compared to NFC on almost every axis, with the only exception of battery; having a higher range is a feature, since you can estimate the range with a decent precision. It's safe to assume that Apple was forced to add NFC for compatibility with the existent contactless POS (especially in Europe, where they've got a widespread adoption already). The same applies for the Secure Element, which is a functional duplicate of the Secure Enclave, but runs Java Card and was probably required by CC networks to reuse existing infrastructure.

With more interaction online moving to smartphones and tablets, what do we do instead of USB hardware keys like these?

x1798DE 12y ago

Probably a similar device but with some sort of low-power NFC transponder rather than a physical connection.

janzer 12y ago
I've never used it but, https://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/yubikey-neo/ https://www.yubico.com/products/yubikey-hardware/yubikey-neo... seems to fit the bill.
- jgrowl 12y ago
  I have one. It is pretty cool but it hasn't been real useful up until now. I haven't found many apps that support it. I ended up just grabbing the clipboard app that yubikey puts out. I tried using the static password feature by using it as part of my master password in 1password but the newer versions of 1password block using the clipboard in android (with good reason). It would be pretty awesome if password-managers added support for it.
  - ascorbic 12y ago
    LastPass supports Yubikey natively, including on mobile.

iancarroll 12y ago

Authy allows Bluetooth communication to get 2FA codes from your phone onto your Mac.

tpurves 12y ago

Wearables with BTLE.

higherpurpose 12y ago
Bluetooth has too long range. That's why it was never a good idea for Apple to adopt it for payments either, despite all the cheering for it when BLE came to the iPhone. I'd rather these only work with NFC (you know, like Apple Pay). Although I wouldn't mind the BLE option too for things like opening the garage door. But for anything else where you're at close range anyway, it should be NFC by default.
- feld 12y ago
  Who cares what the range is? You can detect distance of the device before communicating. And do you think the data is not encrypted? "Wifi has too long of range; don't ever purchase something if you're on wifi!"
- giovannibajo1 12y ago
  BLE is a superior radio protocol compared to NFC on almost every axis, with the only exception of battery; having a higher range is a feature, since you can estimate the range with a decent precision. It's safe to assume that Apple was forced to add NFC for compatibility with the existent contactless POS (especially in Europe, where they've got a widespread adoption already). The same applies for the Secure Element, which is a functional duplicate of the Secure Enclave, but runs Java Card and was probably required by CC networks to reuse existing infrastructure.